Despite hating my 406 sometimes, here's why I love it too

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Despite hating my 406 sometimes, here's why I love it too

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There is something about a 406 you can't quite put your finger on but it's got a kind of respect amongst cars that goes unsaid.

I just dropped off my lad at the school Disco :roll: and there was a D9 parked outside. I parked next to it naturally :oops: and when I looked back from inside the building (as you do) the front of the car said; no nonsense, business like, an honest car with a job to do.

I don't know it's hard to explain but when I see a 406 I have nothing but respect for the driver and the car looks purposefull, fit for the job, here to stay kind of thing.

Note to self: try not to post on here after 3 pints of Stella.

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Welton wrote:
Ooh, new title under me name, thanks nizzer.

I thank yaw.
he He, saw that before, wasn't sure how long it had been there. Evidently not long :cheesy:

I think you need to treat her to a new clutch and a remap, that will sort you out :wink:

I'd be on the phone to Angel tuning myself if it didn't have a 110k mile clutch and dmf in it (part of me wants it to start slipping so I have a good excuse :twisted: )

I've got a few mods lined up for the coming months, all will be revealed soon....

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Welton wrote:There is something about a 406 you can't quite put your finger on but it's got a kind of respect amongst cars that goes unsaid.

I just dropped off my lad at the school Disco :roll: and there was a D9 parked outside. I parked next to it naturally :oops: and when I looked back from inside the building (as you do) the front of the car said; no nonsense, business like, an honest car with a job to do.

I don't know it's hard to explain but when I see a 406 I have nothing but respect for the driver and the car looks purposefull, fit for the job, here to stay kind of thing.

Note to self: try not to post on here after 3 pints of Stella.

Ooh, new title under me name, thanks nizzer.

I thank yaw.
I know exactly what you mean lol I love the handling of my motor and the drive around the twisties..... such a nice drive.... w00t w00t!

Oh and your welcome for the new tag as post whore ! :D
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I'd get the sh*t beaten out of me if I was to take my 406 to the school formal.

Luckily I got a Citroen DS to take me instead :P
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I do like the 406's looks, it ages very well (especially the D9)
Mine has the colour against it but it still looks pretty good.

Can't fault the ride either, smooth, refined, quiet and comfortable.
It cruises effortlessly and the climate control works much better than some cars I've had in keeping you cool, clam and relaxed in the cabin.
I've never felt so relaxed after a journey.

But....

IMHO the brakes are woeful for such a heavy car, the engine can be pretty breathless when you need to get somewhere fast and the lovely soft suspension turns into your worst enemy with all that weight as it feels a little like a blamonge in the twisties.

All in all though, it is a good honest car that does make the driver feel a little bit special when they drive it.
And it is very economical and clean running (No black soot out of mine!)

Sometimes I do miss my GTi-6 (Mainly in the wet or on empty dual carriageways and roundabouts.)
But not the fuel bills ;)
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Eric, you're probably the only other person on here including myself about the 406 handling.

It handles resonably well with controlled body roll but if you push it too much it goes all out of shape and feels like your running on flexible bendy tyres and goes all wobbly. It hates changing direction quickly from point to point.

I have learnt to cut corners and roundabouts MASSIVELY to straighten them out so the car doesn't get upset.

You could of course try and improve the handling with some 17''s and a 40mm drop but then you shouldn't have a 406 Diesel then really should you.

Actually I think a set of the later 16''s with 205/55 tryes would help a whole lot.

I'm still on the original 15''s with the lorry side walls :|
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406 POWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAH!

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Go along with you as regards the handling ... mine's thrown a wobbler a
couple of times and scared the sh*t out of me ... but then again it is an
estate ( though didn't seem to bother Dai one sunny sunday :shock: )

As for the brakes ... get in mine and hit the pedal you be through the
front screen .... i consider them some of the best amongst the cars i
have owned :P :P

Black smoke ?? dont get behind mine after a few days of granny
driving and then putting foot down is like a fooking truck :cheesy: :cheesy:
and cant say i found it breathless even before the re map but then i did
swap from a diesel to a diesel :P
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Welton wrote:Eric, you're probably the only other person on here including myself about the 406 handling.|
I mentioned the handling..... but then again mine isn't standard lol
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Welton wrote:Eric, you're probably the only other person on here including myself about the 406 handling.

It handles resonably well with controlled body roll but if you push it too much it goes all out of shape and feels like your running on flexible bendy tyres and goes all wobbly. It hates changing direction quickly from point to point.

I have learnt to cut corners and roundabouts MASSIVELY to straighten them out so the car doesn't get upset.

You could of course try and improve the handling with some 17''s and a 40mm drop but then you shouldn't have a 406 Diesel then really should you.

Actually I think a set of the later 16''s with 205/55 tryes would help a whole lot.

I'm still on the original 15''s with the lorry side walls :|
Yes you've got it exactly!
The 406 hates to get all uncomposed.
Just go into a sharp roundbaout where you have to turn in fairly sharp with a fairly sharp exit and where the 306 would do 40-50mph through and feel not exactly planted but under control the 406 is a 30mph job at best on the same bends.
If it's wet knock another 5-10mph off the 406 speed where the 306 would be doing 40mph pretty happily.
Those big tyres sure help with potholes and bumps but let the side down badly when the weight of the car starts to bend the wall on bends ;)
Also I found the 406 gets quite floaty at 90mph and suffers from crosswinds, again due to the soft suspension and weight that once it starts to bounce it likes to keep doing it.

The strange thing is when you take the braking, massive slowing down for corners, slower acceleration through the gears the 406 has added 10 mins to my 25mile work trip each way.
That's a surprising amount.
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I'm really liking the handling, as you say doesn't bother me at all on a dry road, although it can be a bit scary "pressing on" in the wet.

I think it's to do with the type of roads around here. They tend to be uneven as well as twisty, so you need supple suspension. A stiff scateboard type thing would just skip off into a field. Actually I even find the wife's focus a little bit scary on the twisties compared to my 6 for exactly that reason. Crested a curved brow the other day (wasn't even going that fast as the tea pot lids were in the back, and the vehicle's owner was sat next to me looking stern) and she went an ickle bit understeer then oversteer. I do that same bit of road regularly in my car and usually a bit faster too, but never even had a twitch :?

Mind you having said that I think the 'state has much less boat-like suspension than the saloon due to it's load carrying capacity, so that prolly helps a bit. :D

I would like better brakes though - After a few miles of country lanes they do begin to fade a little. I dread the day I'm tooling down a lane and meet someone coming the other way driving like me - that could be an unfortunate situation :shock:
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One of the good sides to the soft suspension is that you can run high speeds on back raods without the car tramlining and darting about all over the place. Those squashy tryes do a good job of evening out the road surface without you knowing.

I've followed quite a few 'sports cars' who are fighting to keep there cars in a straight line on some B roads with nasty cambers, holes, and a centre dividing ridge in the road.

In some ways I can go faster in the 6 than I could in my racey Honda on some roads.
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Welton wrote:One of the good sides to the soft suspension is that you can run high speeds on back raods without the car tramlining and darting about all over the place. Those squashy tryes do a good job of evening out the road surface without you knowing.

I've followed quite a few 'sports cars' who are fighting to keep there cars in a straight line on some B roads with nasty cambers, holes, and a centre dividing ridge in the road.

In some ways I can go faster in the 6 than I could in my racey Honda on some roads.
Yes no teamlining at all which is a blessing after all my previous cars :D
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Welton wrote:In some ways I can go faster in the 6 than I could in my racey Honda on some roads.
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There is a fair bit of body roll when you get the speed up through a big sweeper!!!

I really like the steering though, its really light, precise and quick so you can throw it around a fair bit! For a car that size, it certainly feels alot smaller than what it actually is to drive! Have kept up with cars which cost at least 5 times the market value of my car! Tis alot of fun to punt around the twisties!!!
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