Garage is not going to be happy!!!!

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Garage is not going to be happy!!!!

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Last Saturday I picked my car up from the garage after new Dual Mass Flywheel, clutch and cranks shaft oil seal.

Started to notice a bit of clutch jutter on Thursday and Friday. Then yesterday I noticed some oil patches under the car. They looked like very clean oil, so went out today expecting to find a leaking drive shaft seal or something. I took the under guard thing off and found a load of engine oil coming out of the bell housing!!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

Looks like it back to the garage for a repeat job, at there expense! There probably not going to be best pleased about that!

ITts a real pain as i am in a training course monday to thursday this week so I must make it to work. Looks to have lost around 1/4 litre so far, so I am just going to drive and hope for the best! if it starts slipping then i have to get the train or something (2 hour each way instead of 1)!

They have also manage to damage one of the mountings for the under cover :evil: which they can fix while they have it!

I'm off to move my left over oil bottle to the car for top up's and check that RAC have actually added me to the g/fiends breakdown cover!
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demand a loan car as its there fault at your expense, so why should you suffer at ther fault? :x
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Problem is I leave for work at 6.45 and dont get back till going on 6. garage is open 8 till 17.30. I can't get there and get to work in time.

Will see if i can work from home friday (again!) then they can have it friday/sat morning to do it. Loan car would be nice but just less hassle to have a day working from home.
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I hate garages, there fooking useless.

Mines just got back from the bodyshop and now one of the headlight washers doesnt retract back into the bumper after use :evil: i would love to kick off and get them to fix it but like you say its just too much hassle messing about takeing time out of work time :cry:
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They will be fixing mine, think they may try and get away with out replacing the flywheel and clutch.

Will have to see what they say! shame for them really £12 oil seal is going to loose them a mechanic for day+, not to mention the cost of a flywheel and clutch. Its the one bit of the job I would have been every carefully with. Not be nice for the mechanic to have to do it again!

Car seams to be driving fine and the clutch isn't slipping. so it should be ok to get me to work. will just need to keep eye on the oil level.
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when you bollock em and book it in again you should tell em
you want to see the parts they have replaced bloody tossers
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Post by Welly »

Dear oh dear.

I would want to see that oil has not touched the friction linings here, they will just want to spray degreaser on it and put it back, I'm not 100% sure if a bit of Oil on the lining is really a big deal. They will probably says it's no harm and it will 'burn off' :|

There must be a problem with the crank seal, unless of course they never did change the old one :frown:

Good luck here fella.
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Just rang them and booked it for Friday hopefully it will last till then. They wanted it sooner but i have to get to work for training course.

It wasn't leaking before so I think this shows they did change it!

My line is i want the lot replacing as the flywheel also has a friction material in it and it didn't pay a lot of money for it changing to get a a clutch with oil on it. Will just have to see what they say, if they say its no big deal, and it doesn't need changing. I'll say its no big deal to extend the warrenty then.

Any comments on how serious a little oil on the clutch is are welcome.

Thanks
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any oil contamination of the friction plate is bad news as its highly absorbent, and due to the pressure involvled in its operation it will get oil very stuck in it :cry:
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Thanks,

So the bottom line is it will need a new clutch and if the garage says "it'll been fine" thats not good enough. Any thoughts on whether the DMF must also be replaced?
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Took car to garage this morning.

Have lent me there loan car, a wonderful P reg Daewoo Nexia!! needless to say its seen better days!

Parked it round the back of the house and hoping not to have to drive it apart from to take it back!
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mbell666 wrote:Have lent me there loan car, a wonderful P reg Daewoo Nexia!! needless to say its seen better days!
You know, they could have lent you the Audi but because you complained..........
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I didn't complain just told them it was leaking oil and appeared to be coming from the bell housing. Was very nice about it all, considering.

Anyway have picked the 406 up. They reckon the oil leak is the sump gasket, near the rear of the engine. Which is running down the sump and is coming from the from behind the bell housing cover making it look like its a leak in the bell housing.

So it will need a sump gasket. Which means removing the fan belt to undo the ac pump :(.

Looking like the 150k service will be a little more than an oil change, its probably due a new fan belt anyway as it is going up to 35k since it was last changed it. Might even see about a new tensioner. Just need to decide if am going to do it or be lazy and take it to the garage.

Getting the loan car was a bit of a waste of time really, think I would have rather walked the 10 minutes rather than drive that!
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Post by Foghorn Leghorn »

I've got a slight leak on my sump too. As far as I remember there isn't a sump gasket you use a sealant.

The fan belt is ridiculously easy to do, you don't even have to undo anything. So is the sump for that matter, whip the belt off undo the ac compressor and tie it out of the way then whip the sump off (drain the oil first!!). The good thing about the HDi is you don't need to drop the subframe or remove the manifold or any of the other crap you have to shift on other cars.

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Thanks, thought it may have been a instant gasket job. Does nay one know if you need special gasket stuff like for the VW engines?

I am trying to convince my brother to assist while he is somewhere close next weekend. Generally if i can't do it, he can and if he can't i manage it! :)

I've read the bible (haynes) on this, doesn't sound that bad. I am bit wary of fan belts, had three attempts at old mondeo ones and didn't manage them, due to not being able to get allen key in to loose one of them.
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