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hi im thinking of buying a 406 exec estate diesel, condition more important than year which model has the cheapest road tax?
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Have a look on here http://www.bytestart.co.uk/content/taxl ... 08-9.shtml
All pre-2001 models are £185.00
I'm not absolutely certain, but I think this is correct:
110 manual with FAP Group C - £120/yr
110 manual without FAP Group D - £145/yr
All HDi 90's Group D - £145/yr
110 auto with FAP Group D - £145/yr
110 auto without FAP system Group E - £170/yr
All 136's Group E - £170/yr

I can vouch for the 136, hopefully, other owners will confirm what they pay.
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I would go for an earlier one without a fap. Ok you pay a little more in tax but the fap is very costly when they go wrong :shock: .

I have a 110 hdi which is a 2000 reg. In preference I would suggets the older shape 406 so you would be looking at a S reg also I would go for the 2.1. Thats my opinion the older shape 406's seem far more reliable and cheaper to run.

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dogslife wrote:Have a look on here http://www.bytestart.co.uk/content/taxl ... 08-9.shtml
All pre-2001 models are £185.00
I'm not absolutely certain, but I think this is correct:
110 manual with FAP Group C - £120/yr
110 manual without FAP Group D - £145/yr
All HDi 90's Group D - £145/yr
110 auto with FAP Group D - £145/yr
110 auto without FAP system Group E - £170/yr
All 136's Group E - £170/yr

I can vouch for the 136, hopefully, other owners will confirm what they pay.
thanks for that looks like it s a 2001 110 then its a big jump from 2000 whys that
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It's because all HDi's are 'clean' enough to qualify for slightly lower tax rates, (assessed in terms of grams of CO2 / km),but these rules were introduced in 2001 and were not retrospective. Prior to 2001 there were only two rates, for over and under 1560cc or thereabouts.

It's legislation, doesn't have to make sense :roll:
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dogslife wrote:It's because all HDi's are 'clean' enough to qualify for slightly lower tax rates, (assessed in terms of grams of CO2 / km),but these rules were introduced in 2001 and were not retrospective. Prior to 2001 there were only two rates, for over and under 1560cc or thereabouts.

It's legislation, doesn't have to make sense :roll:
so the 90s are all made before 2001 did these have the same engine as the old 405 then or is this a hdi as well?
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Hdi 90 & 110 both introduced mid 1999, but were taxed at the higher of the 2 available rates, until emissions based tax bands were introduced in 2001. Both engines continued in production to the last 406 's made. 2.2l Hdi 136 introduced 2001, also remained in production until the end.

All 136's have the FAP system, later HDi 110's also have FAP, from about 2002, I think. 90's never had FAP. HDi 110 with FAP qualifies for marginally lower tax, but I don't think anyone would suggest the tiny saving outweighs the complexity and potential cost of the FAP system.
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It's a shame about the 2001 rule change as the HDi is very clean running and would easily quaify for the lower rate even on older models like mine. It's a pity they don't tax you based on your MOT emission result in bands (I'm only saying this as most HDi'ers would benefit).

Doggy - I don't think any 110's had a FAP fitted in later years - rather they had an 'Air Dozer' device which does something in conjunction with the EGR function at idle speed/low revs to reduce standing emissions and this qualifies the car for much lower tax.
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Welly totally agree :cry: :cry: :cry. My hdi produces the same emissions as a 2001 but more tax :cry: :cry:
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Ditto :cry: :cry:
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Ditto previous Citroen :cry: :cry:

But this one's £170 :twisted:
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My 406HDI 90, 2001, costs £120 for the year.
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jasper5 wrote:My 406HDI 90, 2001, costs £120 for the year.
so90s where still made after 2001 then?
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According to this my car is still quite low on tax duty... Im not complaining though!
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for NC03 FVD are:
Date of Liability 01 01 2010
Date of First Registration 09 06 2003
Year of Manufacture 2003
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1997CC
CO2 Emissions 149g/Km
Fuel Type Heavy Oil
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status SORN Not Due
Vehicle Colour BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval M1
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £66.00
12 Months Rate £120.00
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macturbo wrote:According to this my car is still quite low on tax duty... Im not complaining though!
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for NC03 FVD are:
Date of Liability 01 01 2010
Date of First Registration 09 06 2003
Year of Manufacture 2003
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1997CC
CO2 Emissions 149g/Km
Fuel Type Heavy Oil
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status SORN Not Due
Vehicle Colour BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval M1
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £66.00
12 Months Rate £120.00
must be a 110 with fap then
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