Alreet Everyone? I want another 406. ;)

[GeordieBoy]

Bet you all missed me having you?

Anyway I'm looking for another 406, needs to be a 1.9 TD with a Bosch Fuel Pump. Needs to be cheap, under £800 with plenty MOT and some Tax.
Let me know if you's see any about, preferably near to Newcastle, but I can travel.

[DaiRees]

I can't remember you saying a single good word about our beloved mowtahs in the past , why the change of heart?

Welcome back anyway fella

For those of you who don't yet know Geordie, he's proof positive that we allow all sorts in here!

[GeordieBoy]

lol thanks for the warm welcome. I liked my other 406, just didn't like it when it kept breaking things.

They is a hint in my post on why I want 1, must be 1.9TD with a Bosch Fuel Pump, should give it away.

[Welly]

They is a hint in my post on why I want 1

You've got a job in a Chinese Chippy?

How you doing fella? I sold my 406 to a nice Frenchman (honest) but still stick around to, err, 'help'

[GeordieBoy]

They is a hint in my post on why I want 1

You've got a job in a Chinese Chippy?

You're not far off, I can get lots of chip fat, and 1.9TD loves it. 25p a litre fuel.
I been using it on my BMW 325 TDS for 6 mths until the fuel pump packed in. So need another car to run it on.

[swiss]

I'd sell you mine but you'd have to prise it out of my cold dead figgins first ^_^

[Welly]

I been using it on my BMW 325 TDS for 6 mths until the fuel pump packed in. So need another car to run it on.

There's a good reason for that happening Geordieboy

[GeordieBoy]

I been using it on my BMW 325 TDS for 6 mths until the fuel pump packed in. So need another car to run it on.

There's a good reason for that happening Geordieboy

Yeah BMW Fuel Pumps are shite, they run way too hot, which is good for thinning the oil but not good for the pump or its seals.

[turbolag]

lol thanks for the warm welcome. I liked my other 406, just didn't like it when it kept breaking things.

I'm hardly surprised considering the stories with which you regaled us of driving flat out in top for days on end, then telling us she didn't feel right afterwards.

[mjb]

lol thanks for the warm welcome. I liked my other 406, just didn't like it when it kept breaking things.

I'm hardly surprised considering the stories with which you regaled us of driving flat out in top for days on end, then telling us she didn't feel right afterwards.

I'm sick of hearing this rubbish. 406s are fine to do that as long as they're unmodified. Well, almost. I find that doing 150+mph for over half an hour causes the oil temperature on ES9J4s to get worryingly high. Back off to about 130 for a bit and everything's good to go again. That's a pair of V6s and a tubby, although I only ran the tubby flat out for a couple of hours before hitting traffic, and that topped out about 140mph whereas the V6s will do over 160mph.

In this country, all my 406s have performed well with being driven extremely hard around the countryside - that's 8mpg trip average with a top speed of 60mph kind of hard. I also accelerate hard on a daily basis - that's 60mph in 2nd gear - and I've yet to see any sign of damage to the car due to that.

Just because most users don't drive in a way that a car's capable of doesn't mean the car's not working within design tolerances when someone does decide to use the car to its potential.

[GeordieBoy]

You's have lost me? lol

[turbolag]

lol thanks for the warm welcome. I liked my other 406, just didn't like it when it kept breaking things.

I'm hardly surprised considering the stories with which you regaled us of driving flat out in top for days on end, then telling us she didn't feel right afterwards.

I'm sick of hearing this rubbish. 406s are fine to do that as long as they're unmodified. Well, almost. I find that doing 150+mph for over half an hour causes the oil temperature on ES9J4s to get worryingly high. Back off to about 130 for a bit and everything's good to go again. That's a pair of V6s and a tubby, although I only ran the tubby flat out for a couple of hours before hitting traffic, and that topped out about 140mph whereas the V6s will do over 160mph.

In this country, all my 406s have performed well with being driven extremely hard around the countryside - that's 8mpg trip average with a top speed of 60mph kind of hard. I also accelerate hard on a daily basis - that's 60mph in 2nd gear - and I've yet to see any sign of damage to the car due to that.

Just because most users don't drive in a way that a car's capable of doesn't mean the car's not working within design tolerances when someone does decide to use the car to its potential.

I agree. A healthy, properly maintained 406, without any boy racer mods is a durable old beast indeed. Nevertheless, considering the tales with which young Geordie regaled us I suspect his car fell in to none of those categories, hence the grief he sometimes encountered.

There are well documented potential issues of going flat out beyond 75mph for long periods, especially in a boy racerised car - fuelling is unregulated against emissions beyond 75, simply because the Euro emissions test doesn't simulate any speed beyond this, so the makers don't bother. Many manufacturers set up their cars to juice extra fuel into the motor as a cooling charge at high speed, and this can itself cause problems. Then there is the oft encountered problem of oil pressure issues to to the viscosity dropping beyond the range at which the pump was desgned to manage, and this can also cause problems, big problems with some brands (4 pot VW diseasels, for example).

I'm not saying this is what affected young geordie, but it serves as an illustration that simply because a car is capable of a certain velocity it does not automatically follow that it is a clever long term thing to be doing to it, especially one with dubious mods.

And I suspect you don't have a proper grasp of the physics - hard acceleration does not harm the engine in any way (drivetrain and tyres are a different matter) so long as the oil and coolant are up to proper operating temperature. Accelerating hard through the gears lasts seconds and will only happen 5 times in each individual manoeuver, it's not an issue so I can't see the relevance of the comment? An engine isn't like a muscle - a hard welly from standing, or days of towing won't strain it...it's the drivetrain that takes the brunt. The possible effect of sustained high speed running is quite distinct from other ways in which you can press the engine.

i've yet to find a decently spannered, well cherished and sypathetically driven 406 cause any of these type of problems for it's owner.

Oh, I wouldn't mind seeing the timing sheets from anyone who has run an unmodified PSA V6 petrol engine at 160mph in controlled conditions. Not legend or rumour, some hard evidence backed up by science and technology. since the tail end of the last decade the TuV euro regs mean manufacturers have to quote accurate figures for power, acceleration and top speed (although there are different methods for measuring the acceleration and several opposing standards have been adopted by different manufacturers), so if they'll do 160 it would be interesting to consider why Peugeot didn't claim it themselves? It's not like a slower performance figure ever sold any cars, is it? The most powerful unit PSA use (the new 3.0 V6 HDi 240) happens to also be in the most aerodynamic car Peugeot have ever sold (the 407 coupe) and that doesn't come close to 160.

[Leopold]

i've yet to find a decently spannered, well cherished and sypathetically driven 406 cause any of these type of problems for it's owner.

I think i come under this catogory, as i cherish and sypathetically drive my 406.. as you know mate..

[Welly]

I know something about sustained high speed runs......it knackers the engine

It's to do with the fuel, my collegue runs (ran) a V6 twin Turbo Mitsubishi and went on a 'top speed' run at some aerodrome down south. He was managing to get to 140mph out of a claimed 150mph but kept running out of road, he also surmised that his Aquamist water injection system may have been preventing full power so turned it off........BANG went the engine

It turned out that at full throttle the fuel supply to the rail was not able to keep up so it started running lean and very hot (it was only the water injection that was saving the motor).

My Vulva is claimed to reach 150mph but (from what John, down the Feathers, told me) the 130 - to - 150 phase is punishing and stressfull and should be reserved for one-offs only (imo).

It is rumoured that manufacturers 'limited' top speeds of 155mph is more to do with reliability than some EU agreement and saves on warrenty claims.

Interestingly my 59 reg McCullough 2.5cc 2-stroke petrol strimmer is capable of some 10,000 rpm but the manual states that you should not run this speed for long periods as damage can occur. Being proud of said machine, and wanting long service, I duely keep to a favourable speed

[Doggy]

Ah but my 3.5 hp Briggs & Stratton equipped Mountfield mower was restricted to a non vibration white digit inducing 3000 RPM or so & fitted with a so-called automatic throttle. This contraption gauranteed it would stall unless you fed bone-dry grass in one stalk at a time

I 'adapted' it wiv a big spring to run flat out all the time

Guess it had an adverse effect on longevity as I had to replace it this year after only 14 years of sceaming its nuts off

Never got round to the oil change either.....