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Post by munfred »

These things are a pile of wank.
Why do you think people spend way into 4 figures to get it done properly if they could spend pocket money on getting it done.

If more air goes in, more fuel is needed, and the injectors are only capable of supplying a certain amount of fuel, often resulting in the need for bigger or extra injectors.

How is this 'SuperCharger' powered? from the alternator?
So how much power does it need to power it?

As for the comments: Unfortunately power can vary depending on which Rolling road you use. 0-60 can be affected by weather conditions and driver error/ability.


Defo go for a remap though. Its what I will be doing once I get round to it early next year. So if any of you know of any decent places to go around the Anglia area then please do let me know ;)
Was going to take it to get remapped by a place that I know, but in the last couple of weeks some of the remapped ecus have had the eproms let go, so looking for somewhere else.
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Post by LXHDi110 »

http://www.dieseltuner.co.uk

Not the best figures you can get, they go for a mix of performance and reliability etc, good website, i only got cheap plug in box, but its adjustable, couldnt see point in going for the all singing all dancing one (same power increase)




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To pick up on something someone else said earlier about the HDi being designed to run at 110bhp - I doubt very much that any piece of machinery would be built directly on its maximum limits -- think of the stresses and strains an ordinary HDi 406 has to go through. The whole thing would break after a few thousand miles. There's always a degree of "tolerance" (my word for it) involved, so a car rated to 110bhp can still deal with some extra power without safeguards.

Ecosse once told me the 406 2.0 turbo can handle an increase of either 25% or 50% over its standard power without requiring an uprated gearbox, clutch or other components. (Obviously this depends on how the power is achieved: increasing the boost will still put intolerable stress on the pistons, for example.)
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Post by LXHDi110 »

I agree that why its turned down to 75%.
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Post by munfred »

Dont know if it is true or not, but I was told that al cars come out of the factory slightly differently. By mapping them all to the same power is the way they are able to give performance figures when they are sold.
Therefore cars can be remapped to gain more power, but all will be different. A reason why bolt on bits arent always the best mod ;)
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=|[PsychoPoet406]|= wrote:To pick up on something someone else said earlier about the HDi being designed to run at 110bhp - I doubt very much that any piece of machinery would be built directly on its maximum limits -- think of the stresses and strains an ordinary HDi 406 has to go through. The whole thing would break after a few thousand miles. There's always a degree of "tolerance" (my word for it) involved, so a car rated to 110bhp can still deal with some extra power without safeguards.

Ecosse once told me the 406 2.0 turbo can handle an increase of either 25% or 50% over its standard power without requiring an uprated gearbox, clutch or other components. (Obviously this depends on how the power is achieved: increasing the boost will still put intolerable stress on the pistons, for example.)
ecosse also believe the turbo engine needs forged pistons at anything over 200bhp, yet the engine shares the same pistons as the t16 which will hapily see 300+bhp on stock internals.
ecosse are also known to be rip of merchants :)
pug performance are better to be honest and at least are more"reasonable" but id still nto pay any monkey to touchmy car :P
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Post by Malachy »

As for the tpic, JDtuner tested one of these on an NA mr2 this month, it actually made the engine loose a few bhp.
i have a few links

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so there you have it a third party test that is not influenced by the "omg i just spent ?300 so it must makeit more powerfull" tester
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Post by missmouse »

Ive just fitted (about 15 mins) a tuning box/chip kit from TDI tuning.co.uk which I bought brand new off eBay. It has transformed my Hdi90! Far better response & acceleration. too soon to tell about the fuel consumpion but i can now live with the car! I was thinking Id made a serious mistake when I first drove it, mind you my other car is an Audi S2 (280HP & 300lb/ft :cheesy: ) So unfair comparison!
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Post by mikey s »

look at it this way. your average turbocharger spins to around 100,000 rpm. these piles of toss 'push' 37,000 rpm if you can believe that. theres no way it would keep up with capacity demands of the engine at higher rpms. the bloodly thing would get sucked in!

its just made up marketing toss.
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=|[PsychoPoet406]|= wrote:Ecosse once told me the 406 2.0 turbo can handle an increase of either 25% or 50% over its standard power without requiring an uprated gearbox, clutch or other components. (Obviously this depends on how the power is achieved: increasing the boost will still put intolerable stress on the pistons, for example.)
Yes, but what they don't tell you is that massively effects the life of the engine and its components.

Simply put, the engine under the hood comes out of the factory in the spec it is for 3 reasons: Reliability, Economy and Longevity. You start screwing with that and you'll pay for it eventually.

Take the D8 2.0 litre non turbo petrol lump. Its rated for 167bhp. But came out of the factory doing 136bhp. Why? Reliability, Economy and Longevity. 195 thousand miles later, that engine is still ticking reliably and economicaly. Why? Because I did not screw around with it and try to up its BHP.

If you want a car with a sporty engine... go buy something thats rated with your desired BHP and comes from the factory doing it.
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Post by mikey s »

the xu10j2te was never designed to be a big bhp monster. it was designed to offer huge chunks of torque lower down the rev range for motorway cruising, effortless overtaking etc. to say it cant handle a simple boost upgrade at the expense of reliability and longitivity is a bit silly tbh. its strangled from the factory with a poor exhaust manifold design and a small inefficent turbo. loose these and it becomes much better on stock internals.

the swedes are the best at tuning this engine. i know of at least one running close to 300bhp on stock internals in a 205 used as a track car and im pretty sure he has had no problems with it. it all comes down to accurate and precise mapping.

i myself will be turning the boost up on my stock engine, i will report back with any failures if they happen.
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mikey s wrote:i know of at least one running close to 300bhp on stock internals in a 205 used as a track car and im pretty sure he has had no problems with it.
So he does how many tens of thousands of miles a year in it? Oh wait...

Mine has been doing over 40,000 a year without problem with well over 170k on the clock now. THAT's reliability, not managing to do a few miles round a track a couple of weekends a year.

Just ask people on here like Niz who enjoy beefing the xu10j2te up a bit. Sure it'll run faster, but not with any degree of long-term reliability. You want reliability AND power? Buy a car that comes with the car out of the factory...
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Post by Captain Jack »

mikey s wrote:Just ask people on here like Niz who enjoy beefing the xu10j2te up a bit.
Isn't he on his 6th turbo now? :P
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Post by Baz W »

munfred wrote:These things are a pile of wank.
The best response yet and i fully agreed in my opinion its just another extra to get chavs to part with there money.

Also forget these tuning boxes as ive yet to see a decent one, a proper custom remap is the only way to decent power and torque upgrades while maintaining reliability etc.


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