Lower engine mount,

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Re: Lower engine mount,

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ianjoh wrote:Its too late to be of help to you guys but it is possible to to remove to engine mount bracket with the driveshaft in situ.
From memory it was a pig to fiddle off the sub frame but a whole lot easier than taking out the drive shaft,

Are you not thinking of the stabiliser bar?

The lower engine mounting bracket has the driveshaft going through the centre of it....it's impossible to remove without removing the driveshaft.

The mounting bracket is bolted to the back of the engine.

I'm going to look at one this afternoon for Gary 406.
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well just back from a visit to jasper. who checked me car all over .

fixed the rattly exhaust :mrgreen:
and discovered the bottom engine mount bush is passed its sell by date.
he also discovered my rocker cover wasnt tight properly - which is probably the cause of the tiny oil leak its got.

BIG thanks to him for taking his sunday time to check my car over. brilliant
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Hi, can anyone give more detail as to whats involved changing the bottom Engine mount ? Is it a case of disconnecting Track Rod Ends / Ball joints and Hub nut? Is the driveshaft removed from the gearbox ? If so does the Gearbox need draining first? Is the Engine mount a Dealer part ? Thanks Kev.
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jasper5 wrote:The lower engine mounting bracket has the driveshaft going through the centre of it....it's impossible to remove without removing the driveshaft.
It is possible to change the bush in situ, a couple of people have done it. It's not easy though, although I think if you had a couple of narrow lengths of 1/4" steel and a long (very strong) nut+bolt, you could rig up a suitable press to make the job quite easy

I did mine off the car and spent about 1.5 hours trying to press the bush in without the above...
greebo wrote:Hi, can anyone give more detail as to whats involved changing the bottom Engine mount ? Is it a case of disconnecting Track Rod Ends / Ball joints and Hub nut? Is the driveshaft removed from the gearbox ? If so does the Gearbox need draining first? Is the Engine mount a Dealer part ? Thanks Kev.
The mount's a dealer part.

From memory, the 'correct' way of doing it is to remove the o/s driveshaft (drain gear oil, remove hub nut, free up the hub carrier (from drop link, track rod end and wishbone), pull the hub carrier off the driveshaft, free the driveshaft retaining clips (11mm nuts on the inside of the engine mount, watch out for the heat shield) then yank the driveshaft out of the gearbox). Then support the engine and it's something like 4x 16mm bolts holding the mount to the engine and one 18mm bolt through the bush holding the mount to the subframe.
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What is it with parts places?
i popped in a few first thing they ask for is my Reg no.. err sorry mate cars an import so what Good will the Reg no be
they then say oh we still need it. :?

after 15mins of Faffing they Dont know What a Lower engine mounting Bush is !
they dont know what a 2.0 hdi engine is and they dont Stock French parts,
and lastly they then agree an import car is not on the Parts data base :x

Looks like iwill be ordering one off ebay ,
what happend to the Days of going into shops and being handed parts :?
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I got a lower mount bush from my local factor for Gary's car.

You don't need to take off the track rod end, but it's up to you.

You can fit the bush into the carrier by pressing it in with a vice, clean up the outer casing of the bush and the inner part of the carrier first then grease it.
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Re: Lower engine mount,

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greebo wrote:Hi, can anyone give more detail as to whats involved changing the bottom Engine mount ? Is it a case of disconnecting Track Rod Ends / Ball joints and Hub nut? Is the driveshaft removed from the gearbox ? If so does the Gearbox need draining first? Is the Engine mount a Dealer part ? Thanks Kev.
Thanks for replies. Looking to have a go at it soon. Kev
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lozz wrote:What is it with parts places?
i popped in a few first thing they ask for is my Reg no.. err sorry mate cars an import so what Good will the Reg no be
Not had a problem specifying make/model/year/engine to eurocarparts...

There's always the dealers... if you don't know the part number they can look it up by VIN. Sometimes dealer parts are just plain better too. I'll never buy an engine mount bush or drop link from a factor again - they're seriously bad value when they need replacing literally just a few months later. Dealers all the way for me and my V6 on those bits!
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might be because of the big v6 lump. ive never had a problem with factor bits.

i even use cheap links from ebay. they have lasted longer than the factor ones i bought.

changed droplinks last year for ones from factors. 3 months later they went and they cost me about 40 quid so at the time i thought there was no way i was paying 40 quid again

so i went onto ebay and got both links for £10 delivered free. and those are still on my car now 12 months later.

admit tho i am very shocked there still on.
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Ichanged the front droplinks on mine last year £13.50 each strangely they Havent rusted there still a chrome colour and look the same as when iput them on, theyre Qh ones ithink iwill be sticking with there parts from now on its Good Quality stuff me thinks,
Iwas Going to Get ebay ones but ive Had Ebay droplinks before for"" other cars"" and theyve lasted a month and started Rattling
they was cheap but Nasty imho ,
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Re: Lower engine mount,

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I've got the same problem. My lower engine mount is goosed. Unfortunately i havent got the money to replace it just now so i'm going along the lines of repairing it as a temporary bodge. New baby forcing me to tighten my belt just now. I read on here that a couple of people used rad hose or chopped up an exhaust mount and forced it into the gaps where its knackered. I was wondering what sort of glue to use? Anyone else had a go at this recently?

I will need a new cv boot on the drivers side soon as its looking a bit worn so i was thinking as the driveshaft will be coming out anyway that would be the best time to get a new mount sorted at the same time and probably work out cheaper.

Seems to be very common problem. The last one that was replaced lasted 4yrs so thats not bad.

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marco2002 wrote:I've got the same problem. My lower engine mount is goosed. Unfortunately i havent got the money to replace it just now so i'm going along the lines of repairing it as a temporary bodge. New baby forcing me to tighten my belt just now. I read on here that a couple of people used rad hose or chopped up an exhaust mount and forced it into the gaps where its knackered. I was wondering what sort of glue to use? Anyone else had a go at this recently?

I will need a new cv boot on the drivers side soon as its looking a bit worn so i was thinking as the driveshaft will be coming out anyway that would be the best time to get a new mount sorted at the same time and probably work out cheaper.

Seems to be very common problem. The last one that was replaced lasted 4yrs so thats not bad.

Thanks
iused some Rad/ rubber hose,
and a 1/4 tube of Instant gasket making stuff ithink it was Called Granville instant gasket when it sets its sets and its oil proof thats why iused it, other stuff to use is tigerseal, or windscreen bonding stuff works too,

the Bodge will last 4- 5 mths,
mine is just starting to go again after 5mths not bad for a temp job tho,
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Re: Lower engine mount,

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Probably a daft request without actually looking at mine yet, Has anyone got a pic of the offending mount they could post up

I'm getting the knock knock noise on startup, and the jerk when I come of the throttle and a annoying metal on metal vibration noise at around 2k revs and diring changing gear

I want to do a temp bodge for the time being aswell, new baby sucking my wallet dry at the mo with my other 3 kids wanting 360 games and new trainers every 5 mins :(
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Re: Lower engine mount,

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a picture probably wont show anything mate.

my bottom mount looks perfectly ok to the eye but if you look really close you can see it cracked around the edges and its all soft and gooie :D

a new bush is really hard and firm .

only 8 more days then mines being changed. got it booked in on the 14th :mrgreen:
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oK mate, I'l have to have a look as it's knocking like a good'un with alot of movement from the engine :(
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