Is it possible to add ESP?

[OdinEidolon]

I have a 406 2.2HDi from 2001.
Someone knows if it is possible, and relatively cheap, to add ESP to the car?

[FarmerPug]

I dont think so, the com2000 needs a steering angle sensor for starters, and not many cars had that.
But i do think some of the 406s comes with EBD electronic brakeforce distribution, i seen it on the specs of some cars.

Traction control would be quite hard to add.

[steve_earwig]

Possible? Probably. Cheap? Good lord no

[OdinEidolon]

I dont think so, the com2000 needs a steering angle sensor for starters, and not many cars had that.
But i do think some of the 406s comes with EBD electronic brakeforce distribution, i seen it on the specs of some cars.

Traction control would be quite hard to add.

Mine is pre-com2000, and has EBD like all 406s I believe.
I remember someone said the sensors were already present, as they were the same of the ABS, but mat well not be true.
Tomorrow i'll go to the local stealer for the timing belt change (or distribution belt, dunno how you call it), I'll ask him.

[FarmerPug]

Its an option on the pp2000 to activate the ESP, ive done that and it made no difference.
But the thing is, the 406 doesnt really need ESP, it handles all right as it is.

[OdinEidolon]

Its an option on the pp2000 to activate the ESP, ive done that and it made no difference.
But the thing is, the 406 doesnt really need ESP, it handles all right as it is.

I suppose you need some kind of BSI thinkering too, and some more sensors.
I never wanted ESP in a car, but a mont ago I crashed my mothers Clio because of some oil on the road... I'm sure ESP would have avoided that. The back of the started car drifting wildly, I under-drifted to keep it inside the road. When I got out of the oil the car suddenly regained friction and I crashed against the guardrail with the front ). 2500€ of damage for a couple of stupid plastic parts worth 200€ in reality. Damn car makers!

[steve_earwig]

You will need... Oooh, looks like the ecu goes under the passenger seat.

4541W7 01 BRAKE HYD BLOCK - WITH ABS BRAKES AND ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM AND PART TO BE CONFIGURED
454904 01 PRE-LOAD PUMP
454916 01 TWIN SENSOR ESP
4542A4 01 ESP ECU
454584 01 FLYWH ANG COND
454358 01 ELASTIC BRACKET
454844 01 CLIP
454360 01 SHAFT RING
6555HJ 01 ELECTRIC RELAY 25 AMP NR - BLACK
454838 01 SHAFT SCREW 6X100-15
6555N7 01 HOG RING 6X12-0,7-4
454845 NFP (no longer supplied) 01 CLIP
454846 01 CLIP
454847 01 RUBBER BUFFER DIAM 20 HAUT 10
454909 01 ESP SWITCH
4547J1 01 PUMP SUPPORT
8913TL 01 BOX BRACKET FEX - CASSEL EARTH BEIGE - LEFT HAND DRIVE AND ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM UNTIL RPO No. 08910
-or-
8913TN 01 FZL - HURRICANE GREY - LEFT HAND DRIVE AND ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM UNTIL RPO No. 08910
6935C7 03 WASHER-NUT M6X100
698419 01 CAGE SCREW 6X100-12
698422 01 CAGE SCREW DIAM 6X100-20
6936C9 02 NUT WITH BASE 6X100
693997 02 WASHER-NUT DIAM 6X100-7-18
6924H2 03 CAPSCREW 6X100-16
6924F2 02 SCREW CBLX DIAM 4,5-10

Total + VAT 3,438.85 GBP


Do you give up yet?

[OdinEidolon]

You will need... Oooh, looks like the ecu goes under the passenger seat.

4541W7 01 BRAKE HYD BLOCK - WITH ABS BRAKES AND ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM AND PART TO BE CONFIGURED
454904 01 PRE-LOAD PUMP
454916 01 TWIN SENSOR ESP
4542A4 01 ESP ECU
454584 01 FLYWH ANG COND
454358 01 ELASTIC BRACKET
454844 01 CLIP
454360 01 SHAFT RING
6555HJ 01 ELECTRIC RELAY 25 AMP NR - BLACK
454838 01 SHAFT SCREW 6X100-15
6555N7 01 HOG RING 6X12-0,7-4
454845 NFP (no longer supplied) 01 CLIP
454846 01 CLIP
454847 01 RUBBER BUFFER DIAM 20 HAUT 10
454909 01 ESP SWITCH
4547J1 01 PUMP SUPPORT
8913TL 01 BOX BRACKET FEX - CASSEL EARTH BEIGE - LEFT HAND DRIVE AND ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM UNTIL RPO No. 08910
-or-
8913TN 01 FZL - HURRICANE GREY - LEFT HAND DRIVE AND ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM UNTIL RPO No. 08910
6935C7 03 WASHER-NUT M6X100
698419 01 CAGE SCREW 6X100-12
698422 01 CAGE SCREW DIAM 6X100-20
6936C9 02 NUT WITH BASE 6X100
693997 02 WASHER-NUT DIAM 6X100-7-18
6924H2 03 CAPSCREW 6X100-16
6924F2 02 SCREW CBLX DIAM 4,5-10

Total + VAT 3,438.85 GBP


Do you give up yet?

Ugh. Most of it seem to be cheap, but ecu, pump, sensors... Yep, I think I'll give up.
Besides, how do you know what I would need? ServiceBox?

[steve_earwig]

Yep, I pulled off everything that looked like it was for the early D9.

[OdinEidolon]

more than 3 grand, it's crazy.
And most of the stuff are screws, bolts etc... but when the stealer charges you 10€ for every screw...

[RayneR]

Yeah.. i thought my 2000 may 406, had ESP, but it doesn't ..only ABS i think , this one is the only impossible mod to do without having to change a lot of stuff.. that costs a lot of money ..

[steve_earwig]

more than 3 grand, it's crazy.
And most of the stuff are screws, bolts etc... but when the stealer charges you 10€ for every screw...

I just looked to see how much it would be without all that stuff, we're talking a couple of pounds tops. Hold on, your revised total is
3,433.82 GBP

It would make much more sense to sell your car and buy another with ESP already. Beware a failing com2000, one with ESP costs about £450

[OdinEidolon]

more than 3 grand, it's crazy.
And most of the stuff are screws, bolts etc... but when the stealer charges you 10€ for every screw...

I just looked to see how much it would be without all that stuff, we're talking a couple of pounds tops. Hold on, your revised total is
3,433.82 GBP

It would make much more sense to sell your car and buy another with ESP already. Beware a failing com2000, one with ESP costs about £450

Well, I'll just give up, it's not my main concern... out of curiosity, what's making that so expensive?

[FarmerPug]

A Peugeot dealer is another way of saying expensive
So the dealer wants lots of money also ESP wasn't fitted to many 406s so not many breakers will have the parts

[RayneR]

A Peugeot dealer is another way of saying expensive
So the dealer wants lots of money also ESP wasn't fitted to many 406s so not many breakers will have the parts

It's like searching here in Portugal for the GTX version ..I can't even find normal estate ones so i can't even possibly think of find any GTX