Cruise or not ? UPDATED NEWS, CRUISE FITTED! YEAAAHHH

Talk about the 406's electrical system, what wires do what, how to add extra functionality, etc.

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Cruise or not ? UPDATED NEWS, CRUISE FITTED! YEAAAHHH

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HI all ! well yesterday i got around a bit of the peugeot planet to find if i had cruise control to activate .. well i am a bit of doubt .. but please help me a bit.

i have this CD that have some things about the peugeot 206 and peugeot 406 D8 and 406 D9, i have this one little page that i took out from the CD which can clarify things for some and help me a bit ...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L2R06Y14

please download this rar and extract it, it has a htm file which is one page that came out from the CD ( the cd is all based in htm files :shock: , peugeot just couldn't done a good info CD you know ... :roll: )

I have this :

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and this on peugeot planet :

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I came across with this line in the htm file that i give to you but mine in PT and it says this :

(50) calculador CVA (conforme equipamento - 4HP20 ou AL4)

in the english version says :

(50) automatic gearbox ECU (according to specification - 4HP20 or AL4)

Welll , what is this " 4HP20 " or " AL4 " ?

CVA those this stands for " Controlo de Viatura Automatico " or " Controlo de Velocidade Automatico " ? i'll translate to english " Control Vehicle Automatic " or " Control Velocity Automatic " <- not that this is in correct english ( Automatic Vehicle Control maybe this ? or Automatic Velocity Control )

Well, sorry for the pics being in Portuguese ...

thank you by the way.

Edit : i think this has nothing to do with cruise right ? only with if the car has or not an Automatic gearbox i supose ..
Last edited by RayneR on Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:34 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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If you enter your VIN code into www.public.servicebox.peugeot.com/


look up characteristics, you get:

Vehicle family 406 (RESTYLING)
Build code 08295 89 2 0090
Warranty Start Date 25/05/2000
Engine serial number 10 DYAC 4034566
Gearbox serial number 20 LE56 0323812
BER e2*93/81*0188*01
General information
PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 406 (RESTYLING)
SILHOUETTE 5 DOOR ESTATE
TRIM LEVEL SELECTION PACK
ENGINE DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL
TRANSMISSION BVM5
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "GR" POINTILLON
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML5T
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OTHER BADGE HDI
BADGE ST

Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL SELECTION PACK
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "GR" POINTILLON
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML5T
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 25X20

Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) EEC 95 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
PRE-FILTER ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL SENSOR HALL EFFECT
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
CATALYTIC CONVERTER 3 PARTS CATALYST
OIL COOLER MNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
FUEL SUPPLY CUTOFF FUEL FEED CUT-OFF
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM WITHOUT "EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) WITHOUT ANTI-POLLUTION DEVICE
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L3 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 FAN 350W
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL WITHOUT PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT W/O INJECTION VARIANT

Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION BVM5
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BVM ML5T
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 16 X 65
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 25X20
WHEEL STYLE ALLOY WHEEL OPALE
CLUTCH HYDRAULIC CLUTCH
GEARBOX SAFETY LOCK W/O G/BOX SECURITY LOCKING
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 195X65X15 H TYRES
WHEELS FITTED 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEELS
GEARBOX TYPE ML MANUAL GEARBOX

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22
ANTI-THEFT DEVICE STANDARD ANTI-THEFT
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI ROLL BAR DIAM 24
SERVICE BRAKE ELECTRONIC BRAKEFORCE DISTRIBUTION
BRAKE TYPE VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
POWER STEERING FLUID COOLING SYSTEM WITH POWER STEERING OIL COOLING
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM WITHOUT ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
EMERGENCY BRAKING ASSISTANCE BOSCH BRAKE SERVO

Body fittings
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
AERIAL AMPLIFIED ROOF AERIAL
WIPER ARM FRONT BLADE WITH DEFLECTOR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) PROTECTOR WITH CHROME RING
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS WIDTH = 50
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) OPAL CAP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM W/O EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER REAR SCREEN WIPER
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
BUMPER BODY COLOUR FRONT/REAR BUMPER
MUDFLAP WITHOUT MUDGUARD
LUGGAGE RACK MOUNTING WITH ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
REAR SCREEN WASH REAR SCREEN WASH
SUN ROOF ELECTRIC SUN ROOF
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) FIXED REAR QTR GLASS

Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "GR" POINTILLON
ANTI-THEFT ALARM WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT REAR HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
REAR SEAT SEPARATE FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT POSITN
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITHOUT REAR ARMREST
LOAD FLOOR MOULDING WITHOUT LOAD FLOOR STRIP
RADIO TELEPHONE WITHOUT TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT
LUGGAGE COVER WITH LUGGAGE COVER
FRONT SEATBELT PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
AIR CONDITIONING WITH HEATER ASSISTED CONTROL
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION KMS/H
CONSOLE LONG CONSOLE (SEPARATE GLOVE BOX)
DRIVING POSITION LEFT HAND DRIVE
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT DASHBOARD LARGE GLOVEBOX COVER, WALNUT EFFECT TRIM
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
LOAD SPACE TRIM TRIM BOOT + RR TAILGAT FLAP
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) STANDARD SPEEDO LOWER GRADUATION
DOOR TRIM WITHOUT WOOD EFFECT DECOR WITHOUT LEATHER
TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION) REV COUNTER CALC
CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS WITHOUT CHILD SEAT MOUNTING
LOUDSPEAKER MOUNTING 4 LOUDSPEAKERS + 2 TWEETERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL WITHOUT CD FUNCTION
POLLEN FILTER WITH POLLEN FILTER
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT SUN VISOR SCREEN
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT RECLINING DRIVER’S SEAT BACK
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER TILTING BACK
FRONT SEAT ARMREST ASSEMBLY WITHOUT FRONT ELBOW REST
EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR EXT TEMP INDICATOR
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
HANDBRAKE WARNING LAMP WITHOUT PARKING BREAK INDICATOR
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
REAR WINDOW LIFT ELECT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
DISPLAY DISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIV OCCULT+PASS OCCULT W/O LIGHT
OIL GAUGE STD OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG WITHOUT FRONT SIDE AIRBAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG PASSENGER AIRBAG
ELECTRIC WINDOW (OPERATION) DRIVERS SIDE ELECTRIC WINDOW AUTO STOP
LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE (REAR PASSENGER COMPARTMENT) WITHOUT REAR SHELF LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE
ON-BOARD COMPUTER NO COMPUTER
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
FRONT SUN VISOR DRIVER’S+PASSENGER’S SIDE WITHOUT INSCRIPTION
RADIO RECEIVER "RM2" RDS CASSETTE AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PARR+FR DRV HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION WITH REGULATION AIRCON/TEMP
STORAGE (OTHERS) TWO STORAGE BOXES IN BOOT
CARPET COVER W/O CARPETMAT
DRIVER AIRBAG DRIVERS AIR BAG
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE W/O BOOT TIDY
INTERIOR PROTECTION WITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
SWITCH ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
COOLANT LEVEL WARNING LAMP WATER LEVEL WARNING
ANTIPOLLUTION MALFUNCTION WARNING LAMP WITHOUT ANTIPOLLUTION MALFUNCTION LED
TRIM ADAPTATION STANDARD GEAR LEVER KNOB
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL SIMPLE CENTRAL LOCKING
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) FIXED REAR QTR GLASS
STEERING WHEEL RUBBER STEERING WHEEL,4 BRANCH
FAN 1 FAN 350W

Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 150 AMP
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
BATTERY BATTERY L2 400
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CL 5
SPECIAL LIGHTING WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT

Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT W/O INJECTION VARIANT

Miscellaneous
SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
FIRST AID KIT WITHOUT FIRST AID BOX
DRIVING POSITION LEFT HAND DRIVE
TRAFFIC SIDE RIGHT HAND DRIVE
SIDE IMPACTS DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SET OF KEYS 1 HF PLIP KEY + 1 SINGLE MAIN KEY
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT W/O HELP EQUIPMENT
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
SPEED MONITORING WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE


I cannot tell if your car can have cruise control enabled - it was not possible with early HDi 110's, but could be done by late 2000.

If you can display the same pages from PP2000 in English, we may be able to help more.
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thank you for your answer, well that's gonna be a bit difficult ..but what i can say is that the bsi version is dated x/x/1999 and it's a SIEMENS one ( saw this in a menu somewhere in there, i think basically is the first version ), Well my mechanic says that the cruise control is controlled by the ECU it self .. , BSI can't be updated right ? :cry: what about the ECU? Can this be updated? , so i'm out of luck ? :cry:
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I *think* that on pre-com2000 D9s the system is the same old one they used in D8s, with everything separate (ecu, switches, vacuum pump, actuator etc.), so it has nothing to do with the BSI and, I guess, takes speed readings from the engine ecu. Somehow :oops:
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wasp retro-fitted cruise to an early 110 HDi as an unexpected bonus of fitting the engine ecu, bsi, transponder & locks from a later, (but still pre-Com2000) car. (IIRC).
2002 HDi 2.2 Exec Estate, (2008-12) (wonderful)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
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steve_earwig wrote:I *think* that on pre-com2000 D9s the system is the same old one they used in D8s, with everything separate (ecu, switches, vacuum pump, actuator etc.), so it has nothing to do with the BSI and, I guess, takes speed readings from the engine ecu. Somehow :oops:
Well, i think that this is the case, because there is the cable for it .. if it was a BSI thing it would be there to change from present to non present , where in the car can i look for that vacuum pump and actuator and Ecu ? Has far as i " think " if there was cruise in this time ( if it didn't there was no button for it, right ? ) , and then if in BSI there is no option ( as far as i could see and search ) to enable it , then other things does it ? right ?

dogslife wrote:wasp retro-fitted cruise to an early 110 HDi as an unexpected bonus of fitting the engine ecu, bsi, transponder & locks from a later, (but still pre-Com2000) car. (IIRC).
well that's the easy ( or not ) method for doing it .. because it is not cheap ..

Edit :

in that long caracteristics i found this :

ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING

My car does have engine under-shielding
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RayneR wrote:
steve_earwig wrote:I *think* that on pre-com2000 D9s the system is the same old one they used in D8s, with everything separate (ecu, switches, vacuum pump, actuator etc.), so it has nothing to do with the BSI and, I guess, takes speed readings from the engine ecu. Somehow :oops:
Well, i think that this is the case, because there is the cable for it .. if it was a BSI thing it would be there to change from present to non present , where in the car can i look for that vacuum pump and actuator and Ecu ? Has far as i " think " if there was cruise in this time ( if it didn't there was no button for it, right ? ) , and then if in BSI there is no option ( as far as i could see and search ) to enable it , then other things does it ? right ?

HDi's with cruise control don't use a throttle actuator / extra cable, or additional ecu - the cruise function is a standard option of the Bosch EDC15 engine control ecu - all it has to do is hold the same engine RPM and ignore the TPS, (throttle position sensor), unless TPS signal is > current torque output.

dogslife wrote:wasp retro-fitted cruise to an early 110 HDi as an unexpected bonus of fitting the engine ecu, bsi, transponder & locks from a later, (but still pre-Com2000) car. (IIRC).
well that's the easy ( or not ) method for doing it .. because it is not cheap ..
wasp got all the parts from a scrapyard for less than € 150
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2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
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2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
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dogslife wrote:
RayneR wrote:
steve_earwig wrote:I *think* that on pre-com2000 D9s the system is the same old one they used in D8s, with everything separate (ecu, switches, vacuum pump, actuator etc.), so it has nothing to do with the BSI and, I guess, takes speed readings from the engine ecu. Somehow :oops:
Well, i think that this is the case, because there is the cable for it .. if it was a BSI thing it would be there to change from present to non present , where in the car can i look for that vacuum pump and actuator and Ecu ? Has far as i " think " if there was cruise in this time ( if it didn't there was no button for it, right ? ) , and then if in BSI there is no option ( as far as i could see and search ) to enable it , then other things does it ? right ?

HDi's with cruise control don't use a throttle actuator / extra cable, or additional ecu - the cruise function is a standard option of the Bosch EDC15 engine control ecu - all it has to do is hold the same engine RPM and ignore the TPS, (throttle position sensor), unless TPS signal is > current torque output.

dogslife wrote:wasp retro-fitted cruise to an early 110 HDi as an unexpected bonus of fitting the engine ecu, bsi, transponder & locks from a later, (but still pre-Com2000) car. (IIRC).
well that's the easy ( or not ) method for doing it .. because it is not cheap ..
wasp got all the parts from a scrapyard for less than € 150
my HDi is a BOSH EDC15C2 , in autodata in the eletric diagrams, shows there in the ECU that in deed have this function .. well i guess peugeot wouldn't do the cables looming if it was not an option, like the leather and heated seats and the side airbads, the cables are there and they can be installed .. ( so they could just put the hardware in, like the button and stalk, and then plug and play, ) ... saw somewhere here in the forum that someone with a D9 without the wiring for the button :?

Btw does it show anything on the MFD when we turn ON or OFF or change the speed parameter ?

another problem of the scrapyard is that is very difficult to find these cars .. and the prices practice in there is not the same as here ...
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RayneR wrote: Btw does it show anything on the MFD when we turn ON or OFF or change the speed parameter ?
No, there is no visual indication for cruise control functions on my 2002 car, but the earlier design has an on/off switch on the dashboard, which might be illuminated when on?
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dogslife wrote:
RayneR wrote: Btw does it show anything on the MFD when we turn ON or OFF or change the speed parameter ?
No, there is no visual indication for cruise control functions on my 2002 car, but the earlier design has an on/off switch on the dashboard, which might be illuminated when on?
Has you can see from the pictures, there is the cable loom/socket for that switch ON/OFF ...i just need to remove the socket from the square plastic .. it's holding into it I guess but the plastic has some sort of metallic shape inside of it... interesting things happens :cheesy:
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Well i got some news for you and pictures of the interior , check them please. Thank you

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Is this the so called White plug ?

Whats for this plug actually ? For the Cruise Stalk ?


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These pics is the break pedal .. it as too things plugged into it .. as you can see from the pics ... don't know what's their function anyway :roll:

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Why there is these " things " at the bottom of the BSI ? What is that doing there ? From what i could exame it looks like it plugs (edit: fit/add) something there .... What is it ?

Thank you guys, for all the replys so far !
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:cry: , no one ?

I'm about to buy this :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0599441994

He have the dash button aswell ..

It is from a coupe, i supose it works too in the normal 406 .. well he said it will..

This cruise thing is hard to come by at ebay .. there is some but is for the COM2000 and it still doesn't come with the ON/OFF switch ( don't know if the cars with COM2000 need the switch anyway )
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Well i have fresh and a little sad news ..

Today i received the Button and the stalk.. and i have attached the 2 of them ( one thing the stalk and the button were from a 406 coupe ), Well, it didn't work .. or i'm not doing it right, aparently the button gets the light on and when i turn on the headlights minimums and all, but when i push the stalk, nothing happens .. :cry: :cry: :cry: , Why there is all the cables if it wasnt an option ? Does the Cruise Shows any Info in the MFD when it's ON ? i think i have question this already, but hell, even my brother asked me if nothing shows up on the display when i turn it on, and he really doesn't understand must about this stuff..

PICS:

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Please, some help here , Maybe i'm not doing the procedure correctly, the stalk has 3 positions, 2 are like the radio Volume +/- and one single move that is the " O (arrow down) "

EDIT:

What's this ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-307-406-2 ... 0622420634?

Do i have it on my car ? where is it located on the car ?

EDIT 2 :

I do have this on my car, i have checked also, with the help of the autodata, that i have the relay and the fuse on the fusebox on the motor compartment.

Pic of the actuator:

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So, maybe the actuator is fault ? when i mess with it a bit i ear a sound like a spring bouncing ...

Help guys, only one thing i can't check right now is one thing that is beyond the glove box (well front what autodata says, that there is that thing on the glove box or let's say beyond it), that is Cruise control module, maybe this is what is missing, i don't even know what is it, what looks like ... :shock:

Suggestions is appreciated.
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Re: Cruise or not ? UPDATED NEWS, Please some help.

Post by stealthe »

It looks to me that you have got the switches that you need,but you haven't said if there is a switch on the clutch pedal.
If the cruise control is working then it will operate while you are driving in 4/5 gears and above about 30 kph.
The switch by your knee needs to be lit, the plus/minus will set the speed, and change the speed once set and if you pull the stalk toward you it will 'kill' the cruise setting.
You may need to adjust the switches on the pedals, if they are not set in the correct position then cruise will not engage. Make sure that the switches are right down touching the pedals.
If you put you toe under the pedals and lift them it can move the switches and stop the cruise working.

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Re: Cruise or not ? UPDATED NEWS, Please some help.

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stealthe wrote:It looks to me that you have got the switches that you need,but you haven't said if there is a switch on the clutch pedal.
If the cruise control is working then it will operate while you are driving in 4/5 gears and above about 30 kph.
The switch by your knee needs to be lit, the plus/minus will set the speed, and change the speed once set and if you pull the stalk toward you it will 'kill' the cruise setting.
You may need to adjust the switches on the pedals, if they are not set in the correct position then cruise will not engage. Make sure that the switches are right down touching the pedals.
If you put you toe under the pedals and lift them it can move the switches and stop the cruise working.

stealthe
Hi, thank you very much for your reply, i have 2 switch's on the break pedal, one red and one white with 2 wires on each.

I didn't check that if the 2 switch's are touching the pedal, i'll have to check that out...

By the way, do you know whats for that 2 sockets ? ( the blue and yellow one)

My guess is that, that 2 colored things gets out of there and 2 relays attach in there .. but what's their function ? Maybe for the heated seats ? or for the cruise ?

The cruise button or stalk needs any kind of relay ?

So much questions... thank you so much for everything by now...
2000/May 406 Estate 2.0 HDI 110bhp DW10ATED now with 205k km & now with cruise control & now remaped @ 134bhp :lol:
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