thinking of buying a 406 1.9td

[yan101]

From what ive read on here it looks like a bad connection under the footwell. It could be that the guy gave too much for it part ex and just wants rid now. I originally went to see a rover 45 diesel he had up for 995 and he wanted 50 quid plus mine to trade for that. This is up for 895 and he originally offered me 100 back but i reckon i can hagle him to 150. Other pug 406 s ive seen with similar mileages and age are only 6 or 700 quid. Id love to just take a chance on it but if its a lemon id be in trouble as i need a car to get to work. I might see what i can get out of the deal. Whether they can fix the blower before i deal. And maybe charge up the ac etc. I should at least drive it i guess and although theres no pressure to buy. I messed him about a bit with the rover as i changed my mind. Im just stuck with ehat to do. Maube i should try and sell mine private and find a better 1.9 d.

[lozz]

They never Give much for trade ins, some as little as £99
Trust me they know what theyre doing and they know how to make Money,

Cars under a certain Age are Disposable proffit to them,
if it was a late Model car, then they wouidnt be even Bothering with you they wouid fob you off, Time is money and if your not Spending feck off theyl look at it as,

Car Dealers like there Stock of cars Changing it looks better from a Buyers eye, if somethings been there a while this dont look good from the Dealers point of view, they like a change of face,

They Normaly Bin cars in the Auction or Ebay if theyve had them a While, so Handing you a 1ner wouid be doing them a favour,

Walk away from it, theres a Bargain Round Every corner but if its Handed to you on a Plate it wont be Koshir

[yan101]

the rover 45 i originally went to see was x reg, had alloys, a/c etc. only 100k miles, no mot but he said he would get it mot'd, couple of months tax. and a bosch fuel pump so it would run on veg oil, but it had a crack in the windscreen, and the drivers mirror was held on by electrical tape. now the car sounded as sweet as a nut to be honest, my only gripe was the wing mirror. my problem was that the insurance was really high, and the car was 3 months too old to be in the cheap tax bracket. also i heard alot of bad things about rover head gaskets blowing, i know its true of the k series petrol version, but i dont know about the diesels. also im not sure if that had any service history. as that would probably need a new timing belt kit and at £300+ id be walking into another money pit. i think ill save up and get a hdi, for £1500 you can get a really nice hdi. only problem would be that i cant runn it on veg oil, which is something ive been wanting to do for years now as i can get hold of it for nothing. such a shame these modern cars wont run on it. whats happened to simple unbreakable engines? all this computer controlled nonsence is a failure waiting to happen, dont get me wrong i love my a/c climate control mpg computer nonsence. but if i was offered an 80's merc thatll run into 500k miles on veg oil, with no problems, and look pretty retro cool, id take it lol. i honestly dont think the dealer would try and fiddle me on the deal, i guess he just wants rid, he looks to be honest enough, he did explain that the pug had a few problems over the phone before i even went to see it, and he told me id get a better deal if i sold my car private, and that if i came with cash id do better than a trade in, which ive never had with dealers before. i think ill leave it alone, with more monety behind me im sure ill find something more appropriate, my only niggle is that my insurance is due soon, and if i change cars after it has renewed, they like to take the piss. at least i can change insurers etc before im locked into another 12 months. hastings want £1000 for the 406. i can get it with asda for £470 and better cover! i might just go for a nosy round his forcourt tomorrow and take another look at the rover. see if theres any history with it. ive had a rover 25 before and loved it, and the 45 is just my cup of tea. and ill always keep a beady one out for a pug 406 if its the right one

[lozz]

Rovers are a Mixed bag im afraid, you can get a gooden or a Bad en,
No main stealer for them, there ship sunk, that made them a bit of a cheap Throw away car, some people look after them some treat them like a Bic razor use it Abuse it and Bin it,

if you want something thats cheap to insure and run on cooking oil whats wrong with a pug 306 ?
plenty of thems about,

If you like the 406 ask if you can have someone look over it, ithink Rac- or was it the AA did or do car checks for something like £35 or something, might be worth looking into,

if the seller says no to that then obviously youve called his Bluff

[yan101]

I do like the 306 but its not big enough for me. With the family etc. Weve sort of out grown the megane now. Another reason for getting rid. The rover is nice but once again ive seen better for the money. 100k miles aint bad on a 10 year old diesel. I never asked for the paperwork so i dont know about the service history. But it sounded extremely smooth when i fired it up. Once again tho i have a huge concern about timing belts and would want to change it. The windscreen had a chip. Not sure if it was fixed for the mot. And the tax is due 118 quid lol. If the car had been registered 4 months later it would only be 70 quid for 6 months. I may look into the 306. Try one out. Does it have the same engine as the 406 then?

[Stevem]

In the words of the famous Max Bygraves..... 'Iwanna tell you a story' !!!!
It's mine by the way.
About 6 months ago I needed cheap transport for a bit, so went to local cheapo auctions and ended up with a battered and bruised 406 saloon 90 hdi with all the toys for 300 quid !!.Developed an electric problem, which is how I found this site, and the advice gained from here solved it for me. I recently got rid as the mot ran out and bought a Jeep diesel. Now I averaged 45 - 50 mpg with the pug, but only 24mpg with the Jeep So thought, need a load lugger as I have 3 Lancia Deltas (1 an ultra rare cabrio, maybe 10 left in the whole world !),so need space to chuck panels and things in, so decided to get an estate.
Yep ,you guessed it,it was a 406 estate......yet again with all the toys, but no sunroof to wet the floor this time !
Yes it is in limp mode , but for 460 quid with 11 months MoT, and 3 months tax, I have nothing to grumble about.
So my advice is go for it and worry about things after. Problems exist in the mind, until you get home. So what if it does have faults, just about every car does.
This is from someone who had a dislike of diesels bordering on the paranoia ! However that battered and bruised 'W' reg saloon changed my mind...... hence me buying yet another faulty 'T' reg estate !!!!
Buy one and worry after, why worry over a problem you don't (yet) have.

[yan101]

My problem is eveyone keeps sayin "why are you wanting an older car?" and with more mileage.

The megane has now developed another fault with the speedo jumping about randomly.

I may ring my insurance tomorrow and see what the cost is to change over as it has just renewed. And if i can haggle some good money out of the dealer who appears to just want rid of it as hes had it sitting around a while. I may go for it. Most people dont see the potential in a car like this but i do. Good mileage. Cheap to fix. Dead simple mechanics. When the apocalypse comes i can run it on old engine oil lol. And with the money i get back i can get the belt changed and a service. What more can you ask for without spending a penny

[lozz]

Just go and Test drive it lol,
The 406 isnt a bad car realy and im sure people on here will help you out with any little niggles you may encounter with it,

[sirwiggum]

My problem is eveyone keeps sayin "why are you wanting an older car?" and with more mileage.

It was the "older car" argument from others that put me off a beautifully mint 1991 Citroen XM turbo automatic with all the toys.
Still ended up with a Honda older than the 406 by 3 years.

[yan101]

And do you regret not getting the mint one?

[sirwiggum]

And do you regret not getting the mint one?

I'm a sucker for interesting cars, but then 1991 is 20 years ago
As a daily driver maybe too old. Would've been a great weekend 'classic' if you had a garage.
But still ended up with a great condition car that was older than my 2002 406 (1999).

[yan101]

All things considered the 406 ive seen will probably last me longer than the megane. My megane is newer but the pug will go on forever. And with the mileage i do itll take me 10 years to get it to 200k. Ive seen the sam year and engine cars go onto 250k on trader and still running. I was in a 406 taxi the other day. Guy had it from new and it had 366k miles on it and still gojng strong. The taxi diver said he may consider getting rid when it hit a millon miles lol

[Archangel]

no, it doesent have climate control. i may go for the swap, just so i can run it on veg oil

I run mine on it , no probs , got a bosch pump as well

[yan101]

yep, this one does too

ill test drive it tomorrow, even though its gonna be peeing it down, at least ill see if theres any leaks

[yan101]

just out of curiosity, how much would the cam belt cost roughly to be replaced, local garage said £125 for just the belt. but if i had the full kit done i just wondered how much that would add on top?