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Edit: problem solved.

Topic now changed to, How long can the Inards of a Modern diesel engine last, :P
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It's a Toyota - set fire to it now before it sets fire to your wallet :evil:

No idea mate, sorry. It will self-open if you follow my above advice though :wink:
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Found it, after opening it with a screwdriver, :frown:

its hidden under the drivers door grab handle,

its not mine luckily, you shouid hear the Diesel knock on this thing :shock:
Glad its not mine, ijust wanted the diesel out of it, but its got one of them antisyphon things on it :(

96k mile and the engines furked,
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Another complicated diesel bites the dust :roll:

I just don't think they're made to last (not without major repair) and what's the point in that?

The HDi is probably the least complicated modern complicated diesel on the market, de-tuned leaving the factory and happy to plod on for years......

There was a story on the Volvo forum of someone plodding around town in a DPF-equipped D5 (lovely 5-cylinder Diesel) and he was enjoying the supposed fuel economy right up until the engine ate itself :shock: :shock:

Turns out the DPF does a forced re-gen on short journeys by injecting Diesel on the exhaust stroke....this goes down the eggsauce and lights a nice fire in front of the DPF to burn off all those nasties. Trouble is it also fills the oil sump with diesel (bore washing as it goes) and then your oil level goes sky-high.............

At the moment I'm quite ok with my Petrol motor knowing that it's not going to screw me over any time soon (especially given the alternative choice of Diesels out there at the moment, almost like engineering experiments on wheels).
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Yes, it's why I went back to the 406 after the lovely but completely unreliable Honda Accord diesel.

What are the newer BMW or Merc diesels like? Any trouble?
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Captain Jack wrote:What are the newer BMW or Merc diesels like? Any trouble?
They'll be blessed with particle filters too I guess (to please the tax man) so I suppose they'd be ok for the first 60K miles......

I dunno, I think the private motorist is doomed buying a modern diesel unless they do intergalactic mileages. If you think about it the process of a diesel engine will produce soot, but no-one wants to see it, so you drive around collecting your own crap whereas is should be blasting out the back end for someone else to worry about :|

As a sad car enthusiast I've noticed the tail-pipes of new BMW D's to be spotlessly clean, like eat-your-dinner-off clean, so where's it all gone? it's clever stuff for sure but expensive.

Ford have got a 1.6 Turbo Petrol which produces impressive torque and bhp and does a reliable 40 mpg - makes you wonder :|
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[quote="Welly"]Another complicated diesel bites the dust :roll:

I just don't think they're made to last (not without major repair) and what's the point in that?


Its a Fleet vehicle mate,

its most probs been Took to the Extremes on a Empty motorway somewhere, (Was'nt me )

First one ive seen with the Engine Growel like this one, Normaly they will happily go round the clock,
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Oh I see, I've heard all sorts of things about company drivers.

We had a lad working temporary for us a couple of years ago and in his previous job his boss was an arse and generally made his life miserable..........as a parting gift he took the companies Merc Sprinter to a country lane and revved the nuts off it till it broke :shock:

We also had a bloke put petrol in the Combo CDTi and swore on his kids lives he hadn't. The petrol whiff in the fuel regulator valve told the truth (he thought he'd be charged for the repair).

So are we saying modern diesel's are ok??
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I love my HDi... but it's not my XUD :( It's always in the back of my head theres expensive computers which at no moment could just fail. Expensive HP pumps, injectors etc etc
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RAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! At least it doesn't have an expensive catalytic converter that self-ignites, vaporises and blows itself out the exhaust as a fine, easy-to-inhale, powder (breath that eco-wuckfits :evil: )

Yes, I'm having an "interesting time" with the Toyotter :evil: Guess what I've been driving while it's in bits 8) It's like driving a comfy cloud :cheesy: :cheesy:
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steve_earwig wrote:RAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! At least it doesn't have an expensive catalytic converter that self-ignites, vaporises and blows itself out the exhaust as a fine, easy-to-inhale, powder (breath that eco-wuckfits :evil: )

Yes, I'm having an "interesting time" with the Toyotter :evil: Guess what I've been driving while it's in bits 8) It's like driving a comfy cloud :cheesy: :cheesy:
A pergo perhaps :roll:


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Welly wrote:Another complicated diesel bites the dust :roll:

I just don't think they're made to last (not without major repair) and what's the point in that?

The HDi is probably the least complicated modern complicated diesel on the market, de-tuned leaving the factory and happy to plod on for years......

There was a story on the Volvo forum of someone plodding around town in a DPF-equipped D5 (lovely 5-cylinder Diesel) and he was enjoying the supposed fuel economy right up until the engine ate itself :shock: :shock:

Turns out the DPF does a forced re-gen on short journeys by injecting Diesel on the exhaust stroke....this goes down the eggsauce and lights a nice fire in front of the DPF to burn off all those nasties. Trouble is it also fills the oil sump with diesel (bore washing as it goes) and then your oil level goes sky-high.............

At the moment I'm quite ok with my Petrol motor knowing that it's not going to screw me over any time soon (especially given the alternative choice of Diesels out there at the moment, almost like engineering experiments on wheels).

That D5 engine was subject to recall, they did a software update in the ECM and instructed customers and dealers to never to fill the oil higher than 2/3 full.

They also fitted a sticker warning of high oil level.

Strangely, the 2.0 HDi engine that fits in the Volvo (which is the same engine as in my 407) also suffered from the same problem :shock:

Volvo have brought out a new generation of diesels, including a twin turbo 215 BHP version.

There is also a set of new petrol engines, including a new turbo version.

My son has been on a course to learn about the new engines.

BTW Welly, has your car been in for a recall on the clutch master cylinder yet? My son has done loads of them.
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Thanks for that jasper5,
iwill tell my mate about the Recalls , Hes got a fleet of them so that definaltly worth looking into,
6 out of the 9 hes got in the fleet have been good, very relable,

1of the 3 badones has the engine growel, Gnarrrr sound, shells ithink
the others, go through front tyres, atyre lasts amonth and its down to the cords,

Iwas thinkin of buying one in the future, the interior is lovely in them and there anice looking motor, but iwill
stay clear of owning one me thinks
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jasper5 wrote:BTW Welly, has your car been in for a recall on the clutch master cylinder yet? My son has done loads of them.
Mine's a 2005 S40, I didn't know about this? :? it's going in for an expensive oil change and stamp-yer-book in April so I'll ask them about it beforehand. The clutch pedal goes 'firm' after a long motorway run and takes a few pumps to 'free it off' but it's normally light as a feather.
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Welly wrote:
jasper5 wrote:BTW Welly, has your car been in for a recall on the clutch master cylinder yet? My son has done loads of them.
Mine's a 2005 S40, I didn't know about this? :? it's going in for an expensive oil change and stamp-yer-book in April so I'll ask them about it beforehand. The clutch pedal goes 'firm' after a long motorway run and takes a few pumps to 'free it off' but it's normally light as a feather.

My son has corrected me about the clutch master cylinder recall....it applies to 2007 vehicles onward...the clutch operating rod is made of plastic in the factory and they replace the cylinder and operating rod made from steel.
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