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So, when's the next general election? :evil:

Not a smoker so the hike in ciggie prices doesn't bother me much, but the 3p/litre fuel duty increase (despite massive public campaigns and polls showing public hostility towards this move) and the income tax cut for the rich (which is typical Tory behaviour) just boils my blood.
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Anoying aint it, :(

that camer'ons fecked up everything, and itl get much worse no doubt,


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I think Conservative and Labour are both as bad as eachother.

Sooner or later I won't be able to afford to get to work.
£50 a week in Insurance and £50 a week in Diesel is starting to take it's toll when you only earn £185 a week.
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Gnu Labour proved themselves to be a worthless bunch of %$&? without a clue but the tories are different, they have an objective. Unfortunately it's turning the clocks back to the days of poor houses and the poor starving to death on the streets.
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The BBC budget calculator recons i'm £359 per year better off! Thud as I faint. :!:
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The hole thing is bullshit they f*ck everything up thenake us pay for it the way it's going I'll be running car on red diesel can't afford to be keep using pump diesel its a joke
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midsdaz wrote:The hole thing is bullshit they f*ck everything up thenake us pay for it the way it's going I'll be running car on red diesel can't afford to be keep using pump diesel its a joke
Thats what iwas thinking of doing,
but igot done for it years ago, dont fancy getting stopped at another check point charlie,

they confiscate your car, :(
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My bro runs his on WVO, (says he couldn't afford red diesel). :roll:
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Doggy wrote:My bro runs his on WVO, (says he couldn't afford red diesel). :roll:
Thats all good if you running an older car with a mechanical fuel pump :( missing my 2nd gen surf about now. Active Carbon should take the dye out of red diesel :supafrisk: . If you can get hold of jet fuel you can run that in diesels.
According to the BBC calc I shoud be £557 better off :shock: result I suppose
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Busman wrote:The BBC budget calculator recons i'm £359 per year better off! Thud as I faint. :!:
OllieNZ wrote:
Doggy wrote:My bro runs his on WVO, (says he couldn't afford red diesel). :roll:
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According to the BBC calc I shoud be £557 better off :shock: result I suppose
how the hell are you people better off . is this a goverment funded calculator? :cheesy:
i did it and i'm 420 quid a year worse off, i put in i didn't smoke , i do i just don't pay tax :supafrisk:
labour used to make me laugh , when gordon brown did them, everyone was better off we were told ," even though i've put everything up you will be better off . trust us we are new labour" giveth with this hand taketh twice as much away with the other.
in my very very cynical view at the end of the day you'll be worse off one way or another. Unless your already rich then you'll have even more cash :x
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kevtherev wrote:is this a goverment funded calculator? :cheesy:
Yes. Well, it's a license fee funded claculator. Although given the Bolly Bolchevik Corporation's left wing bias those results are quite astonishing.
You'll have noticed the parade of tubby messy looking women with regional accents the BBC has been parading on the news all saying how they've lost child benefit. But in order to lose child benefit they must be earning over £50k.
Similarly, pensioners haven't lost anything; they simply haven't had an increase in their personal tax allowance. This only affects pensioners with an income of over £9,940. Besides which, with all those free TV licenses and winter fuel payments they're doing quite well out of the sytem.
kevtherev wrote:...new labour" giveth with this hand taketh twice as much away with the other.
Yep: that's socialism. They will collect in all the money and then decide who they deem to be the most worthy to give it back out to as benefits -- minus of course the cost of running big government.
kevtherev wrote:Unless your already rich then you'll have even more cash
It's better that these super-rich people are "on the inside of the tent pissing out than the outside pissing in". These people create employment e.g., by buying and decorating big houses which need endless cleaning, being driven round, and even by setting up businesses, and they buy expensive stuff from shops who employ more people. I think that after £1m income should be tax free in order to encourage more of them to live here permenantly and not in tax havens. Someone earning £1m pays £501,381 in tax and NI -- so just how is that much not a "fair share"?

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rwb wrote:
kevtherev wrote:is this a goverment funded calculator? :cheesy:
Yes. Well, it's a license fee funded claculator. Although given the Bolly Bolchevik Corporation's left wing bias those results are quite astonishing.
Try these http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/budg ... ct-me.html & http://www.budget-calculator.co.uk/budg ... ulator.php - If I was back in blighty I'd loose out quite considerable according to the Biassed Broadcasting Company, the torygraf's laughably uncomprehensive calculator has me level-pegging. The no name brand one says I just gain by a few pennies.
You'll have noticed the parade of tubby messy looking women with regional accents the BBC has been parading on the news all saying how they've lost child benefit. But in order to lose child benefit they must be earning over £50k.
That's fairly normal, whenever there's a budget all media not biassed towards the current dictatorship, sorry, government, always parades those who are losing out for the public to gawp at. Also, I don't think it's the threshold that's the problem, it's more completely reorganising the scheme to make it much harder to claim anything and the millions that will be spent on implementing it. According to the torygraf anyway.
Similarly, pensioners haven't lost anything; they simply haven't had an increase in their personal tax allowance. This only affects pensioners with an income of over £9,940. Besides which, with all those free TV licenses and winter fuel payments they're doing quite well out of the sytem.
It's a lot more comprehensive than that, also the treasury forecasts an increase of tax of £3.3bn over 4 years as a result - how do you like them apples grandpa?
kevtherev wrote:...new labour" giveth with this hand taketh twice as much away with the other.
Yep: that's socialism. They will collect in all the money and then decide who they deem to be the most worthy to give it back out to as benefits -- minus of course the cost of running big government.
Because they wasted huge amounts on administrative cock-ups :roll: Which gnu labour is this anyway - Tony "closet tory" Blair or Gordon "couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery" Brown?
kevtherev wrote:Unless your already rich then you'll have even more cash
It's better that these super-rich people are "on the inside of the tent pissing out than the outside pissing in". These people create employment e.g., by buying and decorating big houses which need endless cleaning, being driven round, and even by setting up businesses, and they buy expensive stuff from shops who employ more people. I think that after £1m income should be tax free in order to encourage more of them to live here permenantly and not in tax havens. Someone earning £1m pays £501,381 in tax and NI -- so just how is that much not a "fair share"?
Have you met any rich people? They don't get rich by spending money left, right and centre, they get rich by holding on to it. The rich are, statistically, the least likely to stick their hands in their pockets to help anybody but themselves. Yes they get taxed a shedload, that's one of the reasons they get paid even more shedloads. Anyway, let's face it aint expensive British-made cars they're buying, nor is it holidays to the Costa Del Bognor Regis. The ones I actually feel sorry for are the almost rich - those who get paid just enough to make it into the higher bracket but loosing out as a consequence. My heart truly bleeds :supafrisk:
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steve_earwig wrote:
rwb wrote:
kevtherev wrote:is this a goverment funded calculator? :cheesy:
Yes. Well, it's a license fee funded claculator. Although given the Bolly Bolchevik Corporation's left wing bias those results are quite astonishing.
Try these http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/budg ... ct-me.html & http://www.budget-calculator.co.uk/budg ... ulator.php - If I was back in blighty I'd loose out quite considerable according to the Biassed Broadcasting Company, the torygraf's laughably uncomprehensive calculator has me level-pegging. The no name brand one says I just gain by a few pennies.

[Because they wasted huge amounts on administrative cock-ups :roll: Which gnu labour is this anyway - Tony "closet tory" Blair or Gordon "couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery" Brown?
bleeds :supafrisk:
That'll be the Tony Blair regime, sorry administration, with Brown as chancellor.
steve_earwig wrote:This'll do http://www.cash4access.com/ :supafrisk:
brilliant! just about sums british political funding up in one web page.
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