PSA and GM

[FarmerPug]

Has anyone heard about this yet?
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... /303199942

[lozz]

Hmm,
weird that, as vauxhall as already got Citroen under the same roof

[sirwiggum]

Yep they tied up a while back, presumably for PSA diesel engines and GM 4x4 and hybrid/electric technology.

Car manufacturers have to do this these days to survive. They have to share platforms, engines and have their fingers in many pies

[lozz]

irember last time iwent into citroen,
ihad too guys running to me at once, what do you need sir,

Er Hang on, one as a vauxhall shirt on the other a citroen

so isaid ineed parts for citroen, the vauxhall chap toddled off,

[sirwiggum]

irember last time iwent into citroen,
ihad too guys running to me at once, what do you need sir,

Er Hang on, one as a vauxhall shirt on the other a citroen

so isaid ineed parts for citroen, the vauxhall chap toddled off,

Must've been a shared dealership.

But Citroen have never had traditional ties with Vauxhall. They were owned by Michelin and once owned Maserati, Peugeot owned since the late 70s.

[FarmerPug]

I don't think its a bad thing if peugeot give gm access to the HDi engines, but I'm not a huge fan of GM

[waue1978]

irember last time iwent into citroen,
ihad too guys running to me at once, what do you need sir,

Er Hang on, one as a vauxhall shirt on the other a citroen

so isaid ineed parts for citroen, the vauxhall chap toddled off,

Must've been a shared dealership.

Our local Ford dealer used to do Citroen parts & service - the Citroen service department was basically one man who used to work in the local Citroen delaership before it became a Mitsubishi dealer!

Funnily enough though, they all seem to share parts with one another at some point. The Peugeot 4007/ Citroen C-crosser is basically a Mitsubishi Outlander, the Mitsubishi GDi engines found there way into the Volvo S/V40s, Suzuki & Ford have both used HDi engines, while Renaults & Nissans have been sharing for years now. Meanwhile VW have always been the sluts of the car world, putting it about all over the place...

[sirwiggum]

Yes so many parts are similar - even Ford and Citreon TDCi / HDi are basically similar / the same, should share many parts.

Volvo also used Renault engines, Mitsubishi use VW TDi in the Lancers, Suzuki used the HDi at some point.

Cross pollination everywhere!

[FarmerPug]

How similar is the ford and peugeot diesel engines. In the 1990s was the ford 1.8 as seen in the escort van a ford engine or a half peugeot effort? What about the newer ford engines, sometimes fords have more hp than the same sized peugeot diesel.