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PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 406 (RESTYLING)
SILHOUETTE 4 DOOR SALOON
TRIM LEVEL LOW - MEDIUM
ENGINE TURBO DIESEL DW10TD
TRANSMISSION BVM5
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EYL - PAINT - ICELAND GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE VAN VELDE CLOTH "GT"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FX"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE4-5L MANUAL GEARBOX
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OTHER BADGE HDI
BADGE WITHOUT BADGE
Vehicle characteristics
TRIM LEVEL LOW - MEDIUM
PAINT TYPE METALLIC PAINTWORK
BODY COLOUR EYL - PAINT - ICELAND GREY
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE VAN VELDE CLOTH "GT"
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FX"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE4-5L MANUAL GEARBOX
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18
Fuel supply-Engine
ENGINE TURBO DIESEL DW10TD
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL DIESEL FUEL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) EEC 2000 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL WITHOUT SPEED SENSOR
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
CATALYTIC CONVERTER 3 PARTS CATALYST
OIL COOLER MNTG WATER/OIL EXCHANGER ON ENGINE
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
FUEL SUPPLY CUTOFF NO FUEL FEED CUT-OFF
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM WITHOUT "EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) "EGR" EXHAUST GAS RECYCLING
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 FAN 350W WITH BLADE
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL WITHOUT PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
Gearbox Transmission
TRANSMISSION BVM5
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) BE4-5L MANUAL GEARBOX
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 19 X 77
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18
WHEEL STYLE OURAGAN ALLOY WHEEL
CLUTCH HYDRAULIC CLUTCH
GEARBOX SAFETY LOCK W/O G/BOX SECURITY LOCKING
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) SUPERIOR GEARBOX DIFF
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 205X60X15 V TYRES
WHEELS FITTED 6,5" RIM ROAD WHEELS
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEELS
GEARBOX TYPE GEARBOX BE4R
Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22
ANTI-THEFT DEVICE STANDARD ANTI-THEFT
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 23
SERVICE BRAKE ELECTRONIC BRAKEFORCE DISTRIBUTION
BRAKE TYPE VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
POWER STEERING FLUID COOLING SYSTEM WITH POWER STEERING OIL COOLING
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM WITHOUT ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
EMERGENCY BRAKING ASSISTANCE TEVES BRAKE SERVO
Body fittings
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
AERIAL AMPLIFIED ROOF AERIAL
WIPER ARM FRONT BLADE WITHOUT DEFLECTOR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) PROTECTOR WITH CHROME RING
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS L=50 + SIDE SILL
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) LIGHTNING CAP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM W/O EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER W/O REAR SCREEN WASH WIPE
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
BUMPER BODY COLOUR FRONT/REAR BUMPER
MUDFLAP WITHOUT MUDGUARD
LUGGAGE RACK WITHOUT ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
SPARE WHEEL REDUCED STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
REAR SCREEN WASH W/O REAR SCREEN WASH
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
Interior fittings
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE VAN VELDE CLOTH "GT"
ANTI-THEFT ALARM WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT REAR HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
REAR SEAT REAR BENCH SEAT SINGLE CUSHION SEPARATE SEAT BACKS
SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT POSITN
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITH REAR ARMREST
LOAD FLOOR MOULDING WITHOUT LOAD FLOOR STRIP
RADIO TELEPHONE WITHOUT TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT
LUGGAGE COVER WITHOUT LUGGAGE COVER
FRONT SEATBELT PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
AIR CONDITIONING WITH HEATER ASSISTED CONTROL
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
CONSOLE LONG CONSOLE WITH EBONY EFFECT TRIM
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT DASHBOARD LARGE GLOVE BOX COVER, EBONY STYLE TRIM
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
LOAD SPACE TRIM TRIM BOOT + RR TAILGAT FLAP
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) WITH CHROME DIAL SURROUNDS
DOOR TRIM EBONY EFFECT DECOR
TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION) REV COUNTER CALC
CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS WITHOUT CHILD SEAT MOUNTING
LOUDSPEAKER MOUNTING 4 LOUDSPEAKERS + 2 TWEETERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL WITHOUT CD FUNCTION
POLLEN FILTER WITH POLLEN FILTER
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT SUN VISOR SCREEN
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT RECLINING DRIVER’S SEAT BACK
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER TILTING BACK
FRONT SEAT ARMREST ASSEMBLY WITHOUT FRONT ELBOW REST
EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR EXT TEMP INDICATOR
COMPACT DISC WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
HANDBRAKE WARNING LAMP WITHOUT PARKING BREAK INDICATOR
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
REAR WINDOW LIFT ELECT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
DISPLAY DISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIV OCCULT+PASS OCCULT W/O LIGHT
OIL GAUGE OIL TEMP + LEVEL INDICATOR
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG DOUBLE FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG PASSENGER AIRBAG
ELECTRIC WINDOW (OPERATION) DRIVERS SIDE ELECTRIC WINDOW AUTO STOP
LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE (REAR PASSENGER COMPARTMENT) WITH REAR SHELF LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE
ON-BOARD COMPUTER COMPUTER
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
INTERIOR DOOR CONTROL (APPEARANCE) NEUTRAL FINISH INSIDE DOOR HANDLE
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
FRONT SUN VISOR DRIVER’S+PASSENGER’S SIDE WITHOUT INSCRIPTION
RADIO RECEIVER "RD3" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PARR+FR DRV HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION WITH REGULATION AIRCON/TEMP
STORAGE (OTHERS) ONE STORAGE BOX IN BOOT
CARPET COVER W/O CARPETMAT
DRIVER AIRBAG DRIVERS AIR BAG
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE W/O BOOT TIDY
INTERIOR PROTECTION WITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
SWITCH ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
COOLANT LEVEL WARNING LAMP WATER LEVEL WARNING
TRIM ADAPTATION STANDARD GEAR LEVER KNOB
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) WITHOUT REAR QUARTER GLASS
WINDOW (TYPE) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
STEERING WHEEL SPORT LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
FAN 1 FAN 350W WITH BLADE
Electrical
ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 150 AMP
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
BATTERY BATTERY L2 400
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CL 4
SPECIAL LIGHTING WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
MULTIPLEXING MULTIPLEXING ASSEMBLY
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
Component manufacturers
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT SIEMENS ASSEMBLY
Miscellaneous
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
FIRST AID KIT WITHOUT FIRST AID BOX
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
TRAFFIC SIDE DRIVING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE
SIDE IMPACTS DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SET OF KEYS 1 HF PLIP KEY + 1 SINGLE MAIN KEY
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT W/O HELP EQUIPMENT
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
SPEED MONITORING WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WARNING TRIANGLE CONDITIONNING
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Re: FrakenPug!

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the plot thickens

PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER


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Re: FrakenPug!

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Tried to get a picture but it came out terrible.
I will phone my mechanic and ask if I can put it over the pit for 5 to get a decent picture.

Actually I'm starting to think my Pug is so rare I should put it on Gumtree for several million pounds!
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trem1 wrote:the plot thickens

PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
It didn't copy well from the table
it means:
------------------------------------------------
| key | value |
-------------------------------------------------
| particle filter | withouut particle filter |
-------------------------------------------------

i.e., Service Box claims there is no particle filter.

BTW: is the 2.0 136 in the 406 a Bosch system?

Current: 407 2.2 HDi 170 & C6 2.7 HDi.
Former: 406 1.9 TD; 406 HDi 90; 407 2.2 160; 307cc 180; 508 HDi 140.
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Re: FrakenPug!

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Yeahh...
But the HDi 110 in the 307 uses a Siemens SID80 ECU.
The 2.0 HDi in the 407 uses a Siemens SID80 ECU.
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Also you can't read/write maps to the siemens ECU in the 406. It has to be removed, dismentled and reflashed.
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How hard is it to change the ecu to a bosch one, bar the changing the keys and bsi, whats different on the engine?
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Probably not too hard.

Change the engine loom, ECU, BSI and Chip in the key.

I'm not bothered. This time next month I should have a new car, and the FAP has never given any trouble up till now. Bare in mind my Uncle bought it from 6 months old.

I'm still totally confused why my 90 has a FAP though?
Wondering if it was an optional extra? Fitted by error? Trial?

The car has had 2 owners (Still in my Uncles name). The first owner was Peugeot.
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This just makes no sense at all.

Even if it was some sort of prototype, there's no sense in that because the 307 was already launched.

I note that 307s have HDis in the following combinations:
1.6: 90, 110. These are both Euro-3.
2.0: 90, 110, 136. The first two are Euro-3, the third is Euro-4.

(Penny just dropped: did they switch 406 HDi 90s to Siemens at the same time as the 307 was launched in mid 2001? But the earliest 307s are Euro-3
Morevoer, did they generally switch everything to Siemens -- you say 407s are Siemens systems?)

But still:
Where exactly on the exhaust is the FAP?
How have they made room for it?
Where is the pressure sensor and how have they routed the pipes to it?
Where is the additive tank? And how have they made room for that?
Surely there couldn't be room to add all this in on a car that was designed 7 years previously?
At least not without it obviously being a bodge?

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rwb wrote:But still:
Where exactly on the exhaust is the FAP?
How have they made room for it?
Where is the pressure sensor and how have they routed the pipes to it?
Where is the additive tank? And how have they made room for that?
Surely there couldn't be room to add all this in on a car that was designed 7 years previously?
At least not without it obviously being a bodge?
Well it all fit's on mine, (least it used to) :supafrisk:
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Re: FrakenPug!

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Not overly sure on a 406, but I did get a good look at a few of the bits & bobs when I had the C5.


Where exactly on the exhaust is the FAP? Towards the front of the car connected to the catalytic convertor. If memory serves I think the FAP was before the cat.
How have they made room for it? On the C5 the whole cat/FAP piece was about the same size as the cat on most cars.
Where is the pressure sensor and how have they routed the pipes to it?
Where is the additive tank? And how have they made room for that? The additive tank isn't actually that big. Again, if memory serves, I don't think it held any more than about 5-10L of the Eolys fluid & it was on the passenger side under the floor in front of the rear wheelarch
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Interesting, but we need those pictures!
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Busman wrote:Interesting, but we need those pictures!
Pictures or it didnt happen :D
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Doggy wrote:Well it all fit's on mine
duh :roll: :oops:
waue1978 wrote:HDi don't believe it
:cheesy:

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