Few questions

[scotty73]

(car related questions)

Q: What are they worth?
Q: Will they fit my car?
Q: If so how much work is involved if i buy electric ones?

sorry for the quick fire questions i have to shoot out here's the link.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190758441331? ... 1423.l2649

[lozz]

I'd say there worth the asking price,
I bet he's had offers of a ton,

So 120 or so is what I'd bid,

They will fit your car mate,

Hour or so to swap over

[scotty73]

I'd say there worth the asking price,
I bet he's had offers of a ton,

So 120 or so is what I'd bid,

They will fit your car mate,

Hour or so to swap over

i was thinking about the £120 mark the only downside being the £60 postage even though it would cost me more to drive there it still bumps the price up a lot.

[lozz]

Best thing to do is IMHO.

Message the seller
Ask for his tel-no
And ring him,

And try and do a deal over the phone,
There's no way of knowing what offers he's declined

You might get lucky and get them cheaper that way

Make him a cheaky offer of 150 posted
Over the phone

[scotty73]

I had just checked how much talk time i have on my phone because his mobile number is on there and i was thinking of doing something like that.

What exactly does the electric side of it do? is it electrically adjusted and heated do you think?

[Welly]

The leathers are heated as standard, there's also a seat memory ECU which lives under the drivers seat with more wires than Google's HQ

The memory function also talks to the mirrors so gets a bit tasty to retrofit - I think most just frig up a fused power supply and just live with up/down, back & forth but no memory - oh and the heaters (which you can buy switched for) but I don't know how much of a loom you get for it all to work?

Wiggy's done this conversion so should be able to help further with the electrickery side...........

[highlander]

Check that the door cards are included in the sale (the Execs had leather cards to match the seats) as they're not shown in the photo

If your car doesn't currently have electric seats, it may lack the wiring loom required to install them - not the end of the world, but it will mean running wiring for it. Exec seats are motorized and heated, just like the leather seats in the Coupe are.

Pay special attention to airbags - if your car doesn't have airbags mounted in the sides of the seats, then you may have issues wiring up these seats - as far as I know, they will have airbags built-in. If your car does have 'em, you should be fine - if not, probably best not to retrofit them in case they go off (also, the car may need to be told they exist if you do wire them up - I don't know if the airbag system will just detonate all airbags simultaneously in the event of a crash, or if it needs to know the seat-side ones exist or not first).

If your car (like my old LX saloon) doesn't have electric rear windows, then the Exec rear doorcards will come without a winder handle (or even a hole for one) and will have an switch for an electric window mounted into the door handle. This is no sweat - you can poke a hole in the door card and use the winder handle off your old interior. The electric window switch will either need to stay, or you can drill out the plastic rivets that hold the door handle in place and then screw on your old door handle in its place. Et voila, leather door cards that support your manual windows.

If your car doesn't currently have puddle lights on the door cards, you may not have the wiring necessary for the puddle lights in the door cards from the Exec.

Good luck getting them bought and installed - they look much smarter than standard cloth interiors.

[Welly]

I don't know if the airbag system will just detonate all airbags simultaneously in the event of a crash, or if it needs to know the seat-side ones exist or not first

The old party piece (until it was noticed) was for the wrong airbag to go off i.e. the passenger one instead of driver as they left the factory arse-about-face on some models. I think the car must know which one to let off - you can't have the side bags go off when you've only hit something head on can you?

Mine was a 1999 and the seat base said side air bags on a little sticker but I didn't have the check light on the dash (looks like a mans head with a big sausage next to it ) I didn't have the opportunity to test the feature so who knows.

Anyhoo, don't they say that airbags are knackered at 10 years old? I think you're supposed to replace the detonators

[highlander]

That's apparently an urban legend. They're made of a tough material, and actually have holes in them anyway - this is so that they don't burst when the pressure from the detonator fills them up, but the holes are sized so they don't completely deflate before your head reaches them. They're packed with a talc-like powder designed to stop the folds in the bag from sticking together and tearing during discharge.

I read a post over at PistonHeads earlier this week where apparently the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety tested the airbags from a 1972 Chevrolet Impala, back in 1992 (so they were 20 years old at the time) and they worked just fine.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... s+last....

[waue1978]

Wiggy had his father do a lot of wiring work to his seats to do the conversion. Since then we've all found out that the quick & easy way to do it is to fit the switch from a car that had non-memory seats (late GLX, GTX or SE).

If your car doesn't have electric rear windows then you'll have to put the hole in for the winders, but on the plus side you'll probably find that it's been wired for the basic electric seats (if it's the same as the old LX that was being broken near me, it'll have a couple of plugs taped up to the front corner of the seat). As far as the puddle lights go, mine had the wiring for them (& none for the electric seats), but we could never get them to work, even after turning them on in the BSI with PP2000. If it bothers you that much, Rapier or S doorcards will match the colour - won't be leather, but won't look out of place.

Wouldn't worry too much about fitting seats with side airbags if you car doesn't have them though. If they aren't plugged in, they won't go off. It's when you try to fit non-airbag seats into a car that should have them that you get problems. If that interior is really from a 2001, the airbags will be in them.

One bit of advice I will give you though Scotty - see if he can give you the nuts & bolts. If yours has the 1 piece bench like mine did, you'll need the extra nuts & bolts required to fit the split rear seats.

[scotty73]

Anyhoo, don't they say that airbags are knackered at 10 years old? I think you're supposed to replace the detonators

half of us need a bag of cemtex then

Right where do i start? the seats in mine do have airbags but are not electric in any way shape or form, the rear windows are electric but like highlander said door cards are not mentioned (so I've asked)

It's not like i don't have the time on my hand to fit these it's weather my brain can cope with the front seat fitting.

i do have another concern that might be the clincher, for the first time since we got married (16 years tomorrow) I'm not bringing any money into the house so i have to ask her indoors if we can even afford it.

She really likes the look on them and wants leather seats but logic may well take over here so i may just be dreaming.... I still have some savings and I've covered the cost of a years car tax but logic is telling me to make do with what we got and keep money for the MOT in July.

I would have ordered these by now if the bastard government wern't robbing me blind

[scotty73]

One bit of advice I will give you though Scotty - see if he can give you the nuts & bolts. If yours has the 1 piece bench like mine did, you'll need the extra nuts & bolts required to fit the split rear seats.

Mine does have a split bench it must have been changed by the previous owner... I'm going with murder on the back seat and not removed due to excessive dogging juices like one person on here might think.

[waue1978]

Right where do i start? the seats in mine do have airbags but are not electric in any way shape or form, the rear windows are electric but like highlander said door cards are not mentioned (so I've asked)

Sounds like it's the same spec as mine which (unfortunately) means that you aren't likely to be pre-wired for the electric seats. You may be lucky. If yours is one of the few LXs that had electric rear windows, but not the wood on the doorcards then yours is an older spec than mine & there's still a chance. The wires aren't hidden away at all. They're just taped to the corner of the seat & you can easily see (or feel if you fancy groping instead) for them.

One bit of advice I will give you though Scotty - see if he can give you the nuts & bolts. If yours has the 1 piece bench like mine did, you'll need the extra nuts & bolts required to fit the split rear seats.

Mine does have a split bench it must have been changed by the previous owner... I'm going with murder on the back seat and not removed due to excessive dogging juices like one person on here might think.

Is it the split bench that was added or the extra rear seats? Do you have the internal boot release on the inside of the tailgate?

[scotty73]

firstly the front seats have 5 connectors on them but only 3 of them have the loom going to them.. (there are no spare wires under there)

The rear bench i mean is the part of the back seat my kids park their arses on for some reason it's a two part bench in black but the seat that supports their back is one piece in grey like the rest of the car.

Door cards are also grey with wood effect and all electric.

[scotty73]

Is it the split bench that was added or the extra rear seats? Do you have the internal boot release on the inside of the tailgate?

i get what you mean there now, i have the internal release i think there was something wrong with the bench so it was replaced.