I want to ask but I don't.........

[Sonia406]

Why is it dodgey its still complying with the rules,

I do think though there is a distance limit, for example I can't book a TOM 100 miles away because there's a lot locally that would do a TOM.... I was considering taking Miss Pug to Swindon... and I'm sure I read that there could be an issue with the distance.........

[lozz]

Why is it dodgey its still complying with the rules,

I do think though there is a distance limit, for example I can't book a TOM 100 miles away because there's a lot locally that would do a TOM.... I was considering taking Miss Pug to Swindon... and I'm sure I read that there could be an issue with the distance.........

couid very well be ,but idont see anywhere on vosa site mentioning which test centre has to be used,

[highlander]

At the moment, all disks and pads need replacing

The discs and pads are exactly the same on the 2.0 petrol as they are on the 2.2 HDi, as far as I understand it. If the discs and pads on Miss Pug are still legal, plenty of meat on 'em, swap them over with those on Pugster. This buys you some time.

handbrake is temperamental, sometimes it will hold, sometimes it needs adjusting and sometimes its seizing on even in motion.

Standard 406 fare, this one. The original design is a bit crap. You will probably find it needs a set of brake shoes, or that some kind of spring or tensioner inside the handbrake drum (inside the "bell" part of the rear discs) needs replaced. Possibly a handbrake cable. Any local independent garage should be able to fix this one up without it costing the earth.

Anyway, you'd never leave a 406 parked on a hill with only the handbrake keeping it in place; you'd leave it in gear and with the wheels pointing towards the kerb. That's just because the 406 handbrake design is crap. It's not so bad on the cars that only had rear drum brakes, like my old 1.8 saloon. The ones that have rear discs are the problem.

At the end of the day right, it's not as if I am saying I won't be doing the jobs - it just buys me some time to get it up there but by doing the brakes first, to ensure on the journey up there - I can stop.

We know you won't avoid getting it fixed properly. It's just that if something does go very horribly wrong between receiving your dodgy cerificate and the time at which you were planning on doing this, you wouldn't have a legal leg to stand on. I.E. if you needed to slam on the brakes, and either nothing happened at all, or the car took far too long to stop.

Many people are driving around illegal cars anyway, ones who have de-catted, and even those who have (like myself) removed the DPF.
Just because the canister is there, legally they both should have the filters in....

This is poor justification. I'd like to think no MOT person would certify a car if it wasn't safe to drive, but the idea that an MOT person might bend the air pollution or noise pollution rules a little isn't so bad. Unfortunately, with this thread, I realise that some MOT persons would certify a car despite it being unsafe to drive. You've got brake trouble, not performance problems. Therefore the concern is safety, for you, your family, and for other road users.

The point is, we're not nagging you because we're goody-two-shoes people that never set a foot wrong. We're nagging you about it because you could get into a lot of trouble or have a very serious accident, and have no legal recourse and possibly even a lengthy hospital stay as a result.

I know you've got money issues, I sympethise, I really do - I'm not loaded either, and this is the worst time of year for parents' cashflow. But you can likely get away with using part-worn discs and pads that you already own, and don't need to cut this kind of corner. The financial ruin you might suffer if you get caught out makes this a really bad idea - it's not worth doing; please don't do it!

*** as an aside - if anyone on these forums are scrapping a 406 at the moment, you could see if the discs, pads, calipers, ABS sensors, etc. are all still available - that might help you out there?

EDIT: Floody is breaking a 110 HDi over on the For Sale / Wanted section. Not sure if the brake discs, pads, rear wheel hubs, etc. are still there and in usable condition? That's if the similar gear on Miss Pug is unsuitable, or you don't want to remove any stuff from Miss Pug.

[FarmerPug]

If its any use i still have the front hubs off that hdi 90 i broke during the summer, the brakes on it worked alright i can take the disks and pads off if they are of any use.

[lozz]

@ Sonia don't order/buy any rear pad's

ive just got some Ebc ultimax ones for ya,.


parcel monkey fetched brake pads today,

iwill get them out to you as soon as post is up and running

[Sonia406]

If its any use i still have the front hubs off that hdi 90 i broke during the summer, the brakes on it worked alright i can take the disks and pads off if they are of any use.

I guess they are compatible? How much are you selling them for? I'm interested definitely, any idea how much is left on the pads?

@ Sonia don't order/buy any rear pad's

ive just got some Ebc ultimax ones for ya,.

How did you do that? Do you have magical powers that be? How much do you want for these? What's ecb stand for too?

Thanks guys

[lozz]

ihad some coin in pay pal i needed to use up,

ebc

ebay ebc.PNG

[FarmerPug]

How did you do that? Do you have magical powers that be? How much do you want for these?

find out if they fit, I've got the hubs sitting in my garage and ill check the disks and pads tomorrow, if they have enough material left on them ill box them.
Just cover the postage and you can have them.

[Sonia406]

ihad some coin in pay pal i needed to use up,

ebc

ebay ebc.PNG

You'll have to let me know how many coins - I'll inbox you!

find out if they fit, I've got the hubs sitting in my garage and ill check the disks and pads tomorrow, if they have enough material left on them ill box them.
Just cover the postage and you can have them.

That would be very kind of you thank you!
Do you need me to measure up my disks to check they are compatible?

[lozz]

ihad some coin in pay pal i needed to use up,

ebc

ebay ebc.PNG

You'll have to let me know how many coins - I'll inbox you!

nah..its alright,

iwill get them to you once parcel monkey fetches them,

[FarmerPug]

Check on servicbox, or a new thread just to make sure they would fit your car, or does anyone else here know if hdi 90 front disks are the same as 2.2 hdi disks?

[jonsowman]

Check on servicbox, or a new thread just to make sure they would fit your car, or does anyone else here know if hdi 90 front disks are the same as 2.2 hdi disks?

ServiceBox confirms they are the same

(p/n 4246R7 for reference)

PS. Just checking, your HDi doesn't have Brembos fitted does it?

[grasmere59]

Here's some cheap genuine discs http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-Xanti ... 43c338d82b

[Sonia406]

Check on servicbox, or a new thread just to make sure they would fit your car, or does anyone else here know if hdi 90 front disks are the same as 2.2 hdi disks?

ServiceBox confirms they are the same

(p/n 4246R7 for reference)

PS. Just checking, your HDi doesn't have Brembos fitted does it?

I don't **think** so! All standard and normal.......

Thanks for that Jon!

[GingerMagic]

It seems we all want you to sort yourself out hun..!!

Lozz has rear pads for you, new discs are £40 from a motor factor, I have a spare set of rear calipers if you want them. They could do with a refurb but you can do this while Pugster is still being used. I am also happy to swap the 7 seat conversion for you for some cider....

Just for the record, my first TOM for my 406 was from a very ' forgiving ' garage but they did still fail it on brakes as they were dodgy. They did however turn a blind eye to the hole in the exhaust, rear brakes binding, airbag and EMl on and the fact the headlight was held in with paper mache....
This gave me a year to get stuff fixed which I did so in a way it worked for me. Would I recommend someone else do it? No, definitely not, I was lucky.