SMASH!

[lozz]

everyone gets landed with a lemon at some stage,
if they say they dont then they are a liar,

ive been landed with a few, we learn from it and move on,

at least your honest about it,

[Sonia406]

everyone gets landed with a lemon at some stage,
if they say they dont then they are a liar,

ive been landed with a few, we learn from it and move on,

at least your honest about it,

Absolutely... I can quite happily hold my head up and say this is the first Lemon I have bought.

I already have my 306 breaker friend interested in buying it off of me. Waiting for the logbook and then it's going.
I know Miss Pug also had her problems but good god, nothing compared to this. She went through the last MOT failing on only one item, I know for sure even if I did all that this car needed, it WOULD fail on something. It is just one of those cars.

In its present condition, how much is it worth Lozz as spares repairs? Any ideas?

[lozz]

Hard to say what its worth to be totaly truthfull,

All said and done acar is only worth what a person is willing to pay for it,
just sit and wait and take the highest offer.

you might get a good response off scumtree, fingers crossed eh,

[Sonia406]

Hard to say what its worth to be totaly truthfull,

All said and done acar is only worth what a person is willing to pay for it,
just sit and wait and take the highest offer.

you might get a good response off scumtree, fingers crossed eh,

If I said £300, do you think that's too much?
Fingers definitely crossed ;)

[dirtydirtydiesel]

Nah you should easy get £300 for it, probably more if it runs ok with the leather & the bodyworks good bar the tailgate isn't it?

[Sonia406]

Nah you should easy get £300 for it, probably more if it runs ok with the leather & the bodyworks good bar the tailgate isn't it?

It's in worse condition than Miss Pug, deep scratches all over and the drivers leather seat has the controls nearly falling out... so I guess £300 is a good price to ask!
Engine oil due a change, timing belts due this year, otherwise still runs quite sweet, though did wonder about the idle control valve as it seemed to lose revs when coming to a stop when cold...

[lozz]

As isaid earlier, (igo on and on and on dont i )

ask for more than you want for it,
Beleive me there is loads and loads of Chancers out there and they will try there luck,
they will want it for as least as possible,

just wait while Mr tyre kicker comes, ive had my fair share of them,
what is it with kicking tyres ffs, its the tread they shouid be looking at,

[Sonia406]

As isaid earlier, (igo on and on and on dont i )

ask for more than you want for it,
Beleive me there is loads and loads of Chancers out there and they will try there luck,
they will want it for as least as possible,

just wait while Mr tyre kicker comes, ive had my fair share of them,
what is it with kicking tyres ffs, its the tread they shouid be looking at,

Ha ha I agree
At least if I do manage £300 that's the exhaust money back..

[lozz]

isold a car a few months back on scumtree,

it was a none runner, (dropped a valve )
someone turned up had alook round it one of the questions was does the aircon work
the engine is S*agged and the punter was more botherd about aircon,

but ah well he went away with it, not heard anything since perhaps hes still sat in it waiting for air-con to come on,

[lozz]

As isaid earlier, (igo on and on and on dont i )

ask for more than you want for it,
Beleive me there is loads and loads of Chancers out there and they will try there luck,
they will want it for as least as possible,

just wait while Mr tyre kicker comes, ive had my fair share of them,
what is it with kicking tyres ffs, its the tread they shouid be looking at,

Ha ha I agree
At least if I do manage £300 that's the exhaust money back..

good luck

Btw. you have pm, ihope it is an interesting read and cheers you up a bit,

[Sonia406]

I just have a picture now of that person sat in the car waiting for the air con to work..
I admit, it's not a question I usually ask

[lozz]

I just have a picture now of that person sat in the car waiting for the air con to work..
I admit, it's not a question I usually ask

[Captain Jack]

My turn.

Yes, you DO get lemons. I mentioned this a thousand times but my Honda Accord was a particularly sour one. It was 3 years old with 88k miles on the clock (Sam's favourite) and in my short 9 month stint in it, there was never a time when there wasn't something wrong with it. It had more things going wrong, costing more to fix than ALL of my other cars combined. Thankfully most stuff was sorted under warranty but they wouldn't touch a failed turbo, which would have cost £2000 to fix. Wrote it off on insurance but it's still on the road... with probably just as many issues.

Sonia's situation is tricky because the issues in the Pugster are mostly service items as you'd expect at that age and mileage. To replace the clutch and flywheel on that would cost close to what the car cost in the first place, even though life *could* be extended by reverting back to original map. Probably near the end of its life anyway and uneconomical to replace along with the near-stalling issues, which may or may not be related to a knackered flywheel. Coupled with worn brakes and the smashed tailgate... hmm....

When my clutch was slipping, it only did it with a remapped file under the heaviest of accelerations and never with the original map. I had it replaced anyway as there were odd vibrations when booting it (flywheel) and I was going to keep the car for a while, also knowing that when it did come to sale time, it would be a great bargaining chip. When I finally sold the car a few months ago, the clutch and flywheel were only a year old having covered 20k miles. Considering the original combo lasted to over 140k miles (80k of which in my possession), it will probably outlast the rest of the car.

[Sonia406]

My turn.

Yes, you DO get lemons. I mentioned this a thousand times but my Honda Accord was a particularly sour one. It was 3 years old with 88k miles on the clock (Sam's favourite) and in my short 9 month stint in it, there was never a time when there wasn't something wrong with it. It had more things going wrong, costing more to fix than ALL of my other cars combined. Thankfully most stuff was sorted under warranty but they wouldn't touch a failed turbo, which would have cost £2000 to fix. Wrote it off on insurance but it's still on the road... with probably just as many issues.


Sonia's situation is tricky because the issues in the Pugster are mostly service items as you'd expect at that age and mileage. To replace the clutch and flywheel on that would cost close to what the car cost in the first place, even though life *could* be extended by reverting back to original map. Probably near the end of its life anyway and uneconomical to replace along with the near-stalling issues, which may or may not be related to a knackered flywheel. Coupled with worn brakes and the smashed tailgate... hmm....

When my clutch was slipping, it only did it with a remapped file under the heaviest of accelerations and never with the original map. I had it replaced anyway as there were odd vibrations when booting it (flywheel) and I was going to keep the car for a while, also knowing that when it did come to sale time, it would be a great bargaining chip. When I finally sold the car a few months ago, the clutch and flywheel were only a year old having covered 20k miles. Considering the original combo lasted to over 140k miles (80k of which in my possession), it will probably outlast the rest of the car.

Thanks CJ

Finally some ones listening and not stupid ;)

[grasmere59]

Possible tailgate http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/peugeot-406-h ... 35d053f5fc