410nms of torque is becoming a serious issue!

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410nms of torque is becoming a serious issue!

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Not because the car can't handle it, not because it torque steers and not because the clutch is suffering either. The car is great!

But because I have this nesceccity to overtake absolutely everything just because I can! :roll:

Maybe going back to the economy map isn't such a bad idea. :lol:
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Torque is overrated.
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Re: 410nms of torque is becoming a serious issue!

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Welly wrote:Torque is overrated.
How can you say that with a 5pot turbo? :supafrisk:
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BHP wins, your torque comes in one big dollop with you trying to sort the gears out for best use :P
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Welly wrote:BHP wins, your torque comes in one big dollop with you trying to sort the gears out for best use :P
Dunno what you're on about! My car makes power for a whole 1000rpm! 8)
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Welly wrote:Torque is overrated.
Ask someone with a petrol Honda, (IIRC you perhaps have one of those tee shirts, Mr Welton)?
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Yes I am guilty of owning a VTEC I suppose overtaking did take a downshift or two....and a lot of revs :supafrisk: mine was the rare B16'B' which took advantage of eggsauce gas scavenging by using carefully sized eggsauce tubing and mahoosive eggsauce ports in the head, in fairness it always felt very perky at any revs.
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Dunno about you but my 370Nm covers from 1300rpm to 4000rpm, making for a very smooth power delivery. Unlike my chipped 2.0HDI whose unknown amounts of Nm all arrived at about 2200rpm and left at 3000...
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Re: 410nms of torque is becoming a serious issue!

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Welly wrote:Torque is overrated.
Unless you're towing a trailer.
Bailes1992 wrote:But because I have this nesceccity to overtake absolutely everything just because I can! :roll:
Are you a Croat? No no, that would mean you overtake everything even if you can't (I have a nice vid of someone doing this despite the fact that I was coming the other way and had to brake sharply when I realised the idiot really was going to do it :roll: )

I guess the most economical bit would be no huge fines for speeding or loosing your job because you can't get there any more...
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Captain Jack wrote:Dunno about you but my 370Nm covers from 1300rpm to 4000rpm, making for a very smooth power delivery. Unlike my chipped 2.0HDI whose unknown amounts of Nm all arrived at about 2200rpm and left at 3000...
My Fathers 320d is 50nms short of mine but it pulls from 1500rpm to 5000rpm! It's like driving a big petrol.

My Mondeo makes it power from 2.2k to a about 3.5k. It's more like being smashed over the head with a shovel!
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Re: 410nms of torque is becoming a serious issue!

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*COUGH*460Nm*COUGH* 8) It's nice being able to drive around out-accelerating everything up to motorway speeds without breaking 1500rpm 8)

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mjb wrote:*COUGH*460Nm*COUGH*
*COUGH*10mpg*COUGH*
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Re: 410nms of torque is becoming a serious issue!

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Torque delivery is as important as numbers, the famous 180 map was terrible at that point. With proper one its a joy from 1400rpm and reaching 435nm at 2250 rpm

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Re: 410nms of torque is becoming a serious issue!

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Thats a lot of torque, my uncles hilux 3.0 D4D on paper only has 343Nm, but its a lazy big engine there is never any need to rev it over 2000 rpm even when pulling a trailer with another car on it.
It would be interesting to see what the hilux would be like remapped.
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Oh I liiiiiike instant big torque :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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