Still running on Winters?

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First off, get a better insurance company. Or do you tell them whenever you change tyres to a brand and model that wasn't OEM fitment? Because it's bloody hard to find new Pirelli P6000s these days! As long as you stay within the OEM size range and speed rating for your car, your insurance company can go piss up a rope about you putting different wheels on. The only reason people sometimes "need" to notify their insurance about new wheels is because they put on expensive new alloys and want them covered in case of theft.

Secondly, used steel wheels are really cheap. So are used alloy wheels. And a complete set of wheel nuts costs almost nothing, they're almost always included when you buy wheels. But tyre/wheel storage and refitment isn't cheap in the long run, and the maintenance and inspection benefits from doing it yourself far outweighs the small amount of work needed to change wheels twice a year.

And please, do tell me which handling issues you expect to have when fitting different alloys or steel wheels? Wheels need to meet certain specifications to be sold and you're not going to feel a lick of difference in a 406 (or a BMW, for that matter). You're driving on public roads, not going 10/10s on Silverstone.

You aren't from the UK are you? Insurance companies rape everyone who changes their car in any way other than how it left the factory.
Tyres are tyres as far as insurance companies are concerned. Aslong as they are road legal they don't care what you have.
If you change your alloys to steels or put different alloys on then they will put your premiums up because as far as they are concerned your car is now modified and you will be out till 5am racing all your other friends with modified cars.

And as far as a set of wheel nuts costing nothing. Ford want £7 each for mine! :supafrisk:

And I had a set of steels on my car for a few weeks. 16" steel wheels with Michelin Energy tyres. 215/55 R16 vs my usual 235/45 R17. The car felt less sure footed, started to loose grip far sooner, the front wheels would slip and spin far easier than I'd usually expect but the car was quieter, comfier and tramlined far less. I think to say that you wouldn't notice a difference is nonsense really as it was night and day in my car! Or are you going to say it's because something is wrong with my car like you did the biodiesel debate? :roll:
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Nah Bailes, it's just the seat of you pants needs recalibrating :lol:
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Bailes1992 wrote: And I had a set of steels on my car for a few weeks. 16" steel wheels with Michelin Energy tyres. 215/55 R16 vs my usual 235/45 R17. The car felt less sure footed, started to loose grip far sooner, the front wheels would slip and spin far easier than I'd usually expect but the car was quieter, comfier and tramlined far less. I think to say that you wouldn't notice a difference is nonsense really as it was night and day in my car! Or are you going to say it's because something is wrong with my car like you did the biodiesel debate? :roll:
You changed the tyre size, if course there was a difference. But between steel wheels and alloys of the same size? No difference.
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Swapped mine back today, been to pick the kids up from their grandparents and went to get the Chinese and I'm already missing my winter 17s. Noisy, harsh, pulling and kicking over cambers and potholes, it's just a shame that the 18s look so good or I'd be tempted to get rid of them :lol:

So anyway, the "summer" tyres need replacing soon, anyone got any recommendations for mid price tyres that aren't as noisy and harsh as the Pirelli PZeros? I've heard Vredestein are good?
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DaiRees wrote:Swapped mine back today, been to pick the kids up from their grandparents and went to get the Chinese and I'm already missing my winter 17s. Noisy, harsh, pulling and kicking over cambers and potholes, it's just a shame that the 18s look so good or I'd be tempted to get rid of them :lol:

So anyway, the "summer" tyres need replacing soon, anyone got any recommendations for mid price tyres that aren't as noisy and harsh as the Pirelli PZeros? I've heard Vredestein are good?
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scotty73 wrote:-7 and snow forecast for Merthyr Sunday night mind. :twisted:
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.... :roll:
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Still got the Winters on :oops:
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Me too. Think I'll get mine switched next weekend
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That's what I'm intending, I had to do an Airport run yesterday (only 35 miles) but at 15 deg C the car felt a bit floaty-boaty.
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Welly wrote:That's what I'm intending, I had to do an Airport run yesterday (only 35 miles) but at 15 deg C the car felt a bit floaty-boaty.
I drove 430 miles on mine Friday it all just feels the same to me see :lol:

Will have to get the alloys balanced up soon and get them back on though...And look for a broken abs ring while I'm at it. :roll:
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I had summers put on the yoyo 2 weeks back, I keep forgetting to take a pic of them on the car though. Anyway, the new law says we should have winter tyres on until the 15th April but, as it's up in the 20's... :roll:

The choice of tyres was again rather grim, unless I wanted Savas or something worse it was a choice between Bridgestone Duellers, which it came with and it wandered all over the road on, or Uniroyal Rally 4x4s. Hmm, Uniroyal are now owned by.. Michelin :frown:

Still, 3,680Kn (398 quid :frown: ) later
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They is soft! Softer ride, grippy, and it goes in a straight line, let's see how long they last.

Btw the yoyo has 1 badly curbed wheel and one fairly corroded, so seeing as the spare is a full alloy and has never been on the road ( :shock: ) I thought I'd use it while I have the corroded one repaired and then stuff the spare on the curbed wheel. The spare? A 10 year old all season Bridgestone, never been on the road but hard as old wotsit. Sad. I guess it's hard to rotate tyres now they're directional.
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My Coupe has a full set of Uniroyal Rainsport 3 - these seem really good in all conditions so far
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steve_earwig wrote:
Still, 3,680Kn (398 quid :frown: )
That's not too bad really for 4. I hope they last well, do you think you'll get 3 years out of them?
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They're quite soft so who knows?

Btw Goran picked them out of the warehouse himself, they're dated week 52, 2013.
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