MJBs V6 Review

[TooT]

That's mental! Is that dealer? That's nearly as much as I was quoted for mine ("dealer only part" at the time), that's how I ended up with a stainless one.

That was at shitfit. The cheapest i could find at the time

[Welly]

mjb should get a stainless quad exit burnt tip jap style exhaust from poWah flowz innit

carry on....

[steve_earwig]

£245 would buy you a Remus back box. Apparently.

Or these people £29.78. Eh?? Shome mishtake surely.

[mjb]

Or these people £29.78. Eh?? Shome mishtake surely.

That's who I was looking at. Don't forget the delivery and then the VAT on top. Unfortunately the S-shaped pipe going from the centre silencer to the back box is hideously corroded too, so it looks like I'll have to get both and buying the car and new insurance (lost 10 months no-claims because the AA wouldn't cover me on the v6 ) has skinted me until next week, so yeah it's worth it. The v6 without an exhaust is LOUD! Sounds fantastic - cross between an american V8 muscle car and a monster truck, but it has the volume of the latter so something had to be done.

I got some Holts Gun Gum and had a try at it before it started pissing down. It's a fair bit quieter, but the hole's just to big to cover. I'm going to have to attack it in stages

[TooT]

Cant agree with you more it sounds great for a minute but after that its just too loud.

I drove about 70 miles with no center section. My ears were ringing

[mjb]

Come to think of it, before I buy new bits I guess I should ask - how hard is it to change an exhaust? What's actually involved?

My understanding is I just need to take a jubilee clip or similar off from between the centre box and the cat, hammer/kick the centre box backwards then uncouple the 3 rubber bits from the L-shaped mounts?

While I'm on the subject, what parts from this page will i need to do the centre+rear sections? 3x FTR27s and 2x RNP27s?

[teamster1975]

You might need to get a blow lamp on the joins to separate them; spray loads of wd40 on the day before you do the job too, depending on how rusty it all is!
Mind your head if you're crawling under the car doing the job too, it'll make your eyes water if a section suddenly gives! Oh, replace all the rubbers while you're at it for the cost of them.

[steve_earwig]

Edit: I bothered to go and look at Haynes

I've not touched the exhausts on either of my 406s but I have on other cars - they're either a piece of piss or a nightmare - it's all down to luck. The rubbers might be ok, they might not, same with the clamps, they might come undone easy, you might end up cutting them off or they might just sheer off, you may as well get them as they won't be so expensive and there's nothing like getting half way through a job and finding you need to go out and get something to finish it.

Get the car as high in the air as you can & start from the back box. Wear goggles 'cos exausts have a nasty habit of dropping rust & sh*t in your eyes. Some thick gloves would come in handy too

Haynes says the joints are flanges with clamp rings (jammy git ), they shouldn't give you much grief (apart from the bolt just shearing off) undo the clamps before you unhook the rubbers.

I suppose while you've been playing papier-mâché maybe you've had a look at what's involved, if not have another look! Spray WD40 everywhere too (ok your car'll stink but WD always seems to work better the longer you leave it to soak in).

[mjb]

I think I've pushed my credit card over the limit (bank account's only got £2 in until friday), but I've ordered a new centre+rear section - and mounts+clamps. Should be arriving tomorrow. When I got home this evening I jacked the side up and chucked half a can of WD40 on the joints, so I'm all set to do it lunchtime and after work tomorrow (else I'm walking home!)

Should I use copper grease when putting the new exhaust sections together?

[steve_earwig]

You can put whatever you want on it, it'll be gone in a few thousand miles . The only thing I did hear of was grease with glass beads in it to use in the bolt threads - the grease burns off but leaves the glass behind. I never found it anywhere tho.

[DurhamRed]

Great piece of keyboard work there MJB - but do you really expect to be taken seriously reviewing a £600 motor!!!!!!!
Pig in a poke springs to mind mate - you don't get much of a car these days for that sort of dosh, as for your remark on handling I bet its never seen new suspension for years!

On the other hand, cheap motor and sounds like a hoot, enjoy!

[mjb]

do you really expect to be taken seriously reviewing a £600 motor!!!!!!!

Er given the miles I've done in my turbo and the fact it's a comparative review against a similar car, yes.

Pig in a poke springs to mind mate - you don't get much of a car these days for that sort of dosh,

Excuse me? I've done over 70,000 trouble-free extremely comfortable miles in just 2 years in my last car which only cost a couple hundred more. Do you actually read the forums? Do you not see that people who foolishly spend £5000 on a 406 get exactly the same quality of car as someone who spends £500 on one? In fact that's wrong - the chances are a £500 '97 1.9DT will end up giving much more trouble-free motoring over the next 5 years than a £5000 04 HDi 136. The repair bills also scale up proportionately with the price of the car.

Would you be saying the same thing if I picked up a brand new 407 for £640 because the seller put it in the 'kids toys' section on ebay as a "pergo four o seven" with no reserve? There's more to a car than its price tag. It's not hard to search ebay right now for 406s on their last legs that have never seen an oil change for crazy prices like £2500.

You paid £3500 for a 2.2 SRi 7 months ago that came with a broken foglamp and broken central locking. It's developed a leak, strut bearing plate went, and your clutch needed replacing. How many miles did you do in that period? I paid £1000 for a near perfect 2.0 turbo 28 months ago and in all that time I've needed pennies worth of parts and when it needed £300 of repairs I decided to spend the money upgrading to a faster car. Sorry, who's mocking who here? You seem to be doing a good enough job of making yourself look foolish...

as for your remark on handling I bet its never seen new suspension for years!

and? do you have a 406 that got built last year from all brand new parts? Half the people on this site have cars around 10 years old. I'm not comparing a 10 year old 3 litre car to a brand new Audi TT; I'm comparing an 11 year old 406 turbo to a 10 year old 406 V6.

I spent a lot of time writing the review and all you can do is mock it because I'm talking about a 10 year old car I happened to buy for cheap? Why don't you take your oh-so-perfect-because-i-paid-loads-for-it motah and f*ck off to some site where whinging about people's work for the community is acceptable?

[steve_earwig]

Spot on m, we're not What (we love fords) Car? so we're really not looking for a journo comparison against brand new motahs, more the inside info from someone who already knows and loves 406s. Anyway, I've gone from wanting a V6 to really, really, really wanting a V6 on the strength of what you wrote.

I'd also like oral sex from Angelina Jolie but that aint gonna happen either

[mjb]

If you think the saloon is a maneater, try the 210 BHP coupe.

Don't mention the 'c' word to me. Another guy on ebay accepted my offer of £700 for a dark green coop v6 needing new tyres and track rod ends. I'd only just won the auction for this one when i got the message...

Strange thing with the 210bhp engine is all the stats I've seen on it seem to show it to actually be slower than the 194mph version? Anyone able to explain it, or is it a combination of factors like extra weight in the D9?

The first time I drove mine after I bought it I wasn't sure whether the stains in my pants after I'd opened it up were from having an orgasm at the feeling of being sucked backwards at warp speed mach 3 as I booted it, or from having shat myself as I went sideways approaching a roundabout as I was booting it

Haha I bet a lot of what I said rung some bells then? ;) I've worked out why I'm having so much controlling it when joining a roundabout - it's because the acceleration is forcing my body back which is both pulling my arm down on the steering wheel and pulling my foot away from the accelerator! How are you meant to be progressive with it when your body is being pulled half way into the boot? ;) PRACTICE! PRACTICE! PRACTICE!

Two years on and the jury's still out each time I drive it

I actually managed to drive to work this morning without wheelspinning it. I even used 1st gear too without short-shifting too much! Actually feel a bit guilty about that... I promise to be less boring tomorrow

[Welly]

Great piece of keyboard work there MJB - but do you really expect to be taken seriously reviewing a £600 motor!!!!!!!
Pig in a poke springs to mind mate - you don't get much of a car these days for that sort of dosh, as for your remark on handling I bet its never seen new suspension for years!

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