HDI turbo not kicking in

[darrenwall]

i thought it was a HDi 90?
if so it wont have FAP

yeah its defiantly a hdi 90 , i was told the 307 hdi 90 has got more " things " on them than a 406 hdi 90 cos its got an intercooler where as the 406 hasnt , but the bloke in the garage said its definatly that so i jsut hope he aint trying to pull a fast one
would problems with the fap cause the problems i been describing tho ?

[jameslxdt]

is it a 2.0 90 or 1.6 90
2.0 90 never, ever, ever had FAP not even in a 307

[darrenwall]

its a 307 rapier 2.0 hdi 90 on a 52 plate and i just phoned my mother and she has taken it into the garage this morning to have the work done and was told to pick it up on thursday so i dont know what to do now

[jameslxdt]

let me check servicebox, but this is a first for me, i swear 90 never had FAP except for the 1.6, are you sure its not a 110?

[darrenwall]

i definatly read somewhere ( maybe the v5 ) that it was a hdi 90 and even when you put the registration number in an insurance website for a quote it comes back as a hdi 90 would you be able to find out if i gave u the registration number james ? are there any obvious differences between the 90 and 110 to look at the engine ?

[jameslxdt]

Peugeot diesel engine identification L4/W4 emission control.

Code Type Model cm³ kw/hp Gearbox Specifics
8HX DW4TD (L4) 206 1398 50/70 MA BOSCH
Common rail EDC16
8HZ DW4TD (L4) 307 1398 50/70 MA BOSCH
Common rail EDC16
RHY DW10TD (L4) 206/306/307 1997 66/90 BE4 BOSCH
Common rail EDC15C2
Siemens SID 801
RHY DW10TD (L4) Partner 1997 66/90 4X4 BOSCH
Common rail EDC15C2
Siemens SID 801
RHZ DW10ATED
(L4) 406/806 1997 80/110 BE4 / ML5T
AL4 BOSCH
Common rail EDC15C2
RHW DW10ATED4
(L4) 806/807
Expert 1997 80/110 ML5T / AL4 BOSCH Common rail
EDC15C2
RHS DW10ATED4
(L4) 307 / 406 1997 79/109 BE4 / AL4 BOSCH Common rail
EDC15C2
Particle filter
RHT DW10ATED4
(L4) 807 1997 80/110 ML5C BOSCH Common rail
EDC15C2
4HX DW12TED4
(L4) 406/607 2179 98/136 ML5T BOSCH Common rail
EDC15C2
Particle filter
4HY DW12UETED4
(W4) Boxer 2179 74/101 MLGU BOSCH Common rail
EDC15C2
8140
43S SOFIM (W4) Boxer 2800 94/128 MLGU
ZF 4HP20 BOSCH common rail
EDC15C7
EGR

ok here we go, i have highlighted what we need, now the 90 in 2.0 form fitted to a 307, meets L4 (EURO4) but without a particulate filter, now either that info and i am wrong, or i just have no idea

[jameslxdt]

would you be able to find out if i gave u the registration number james ? are there any obvious differences between the 90 and 110 to look at the engine ?

i can tell by chassis no. not the reg unfortunatley, the V5 is frequently wrong, my old hdi was a 110, the log book said 110, ok so far, HPi check shows 90 experian check shows 110 current insurance showed a 90, what a result tesco compare told me its a 110

[darrenwall]

im stumped now is it worth asking the garage for the old parts incase they are trying to rip her off and is there anyway you can find out what engine it is from just the registration number thro service box thanks

[jameslxdt]

i would ask to see the old parts, and get them to show you what they replaced on the car
if they replace the FAP filter, they wont be able to show you the old one as it will have to go back to pug as there is a surcharge on it, its the first part of the exhaust system from the manifold just before the cat, make sure you have a look, it will be nice and shiny
if it does have FAP, then this could well be the problem, but usually you get the K light and the multifunction display says some crap like unblock diesel filter and top up additive tank i think

[darrenwall]

if it does have FAP, then this could well be the problem, but usually you get the K light and the multifunction display says some crap like unblock diesel filter and top up additive tank i think

thats what i thought but the " independant specialist " reckons that sometimes it doesnt . ill have to have a look underneath when she picks it up to see if anything has been changed and go from there , thanks for the advice james you been really missed on this site these last few weeks

[darrenwall]

turns out that the car is a hdi 110 according to the local peugeot dealer when i gave them the registration number . we picked the car up this afternoon but it feels no different even tho they ( supposedly ) changed the fap filter and topped up the eyolis oil and reset the ecu , you still cant hear the turbo spinning up and its really slow for a 110bhp car ( my 1.2 litre fiesta was doing 65mph up a steepish hill when the 307 was struggling to do 50 up there ) .
ill be phoning them in the morning but does anyone know where i stand on this cos the mechanic said he drove it for about 5 miles and said that it was fixed , i aint happy about being charged £420 and the problem is still there

[Welly]

Just had a thought, you and Dai both live in Merthyr, yes???

Would the MAF on a 307 be the same as a 406?

Dai = 2.0 Petrol
Darren's mum = Diesel

Pay attention Supa

[darrenwall]

the plot thickens , my mother took it back to them today and they plugged it back in and said it was the EGR valve , one mechanic said that no fault codes were showing but another one said that the egr valve was showing as the fault so they are gonna change it by the morning so its just wait and see

[Captain Jack]

Hey, I've been up for 24 hours, what do you expect?

Sleep, not wandering around on the 406oc But I admire your dedication

[Gallen]

i aint happy about being charged £420 and the problem is still there

...and neither would I!

Take it back and seriously kick up a fuss (...I'd possibly go so far as asking for the old parts to be put back on and a refund because they obviously mis-diagnosed the fault, and due to their mis diagmnosis, you are being charged £420 fo "fixing" something that didnt need fixing - Why should you have to pay? Main dealers get away with murder for EXACTLY this sort of thing.

I know it might sound simple, but have you checked all the intercooler/turbo hoses to make sure there's no splits? I'd reccommend this straight away.

Secondly, the MAF is worth checking - You woud not beleive how much difference a faulty MAF makes to the running of the car.

Good luck with it - It sounds like a nightmare.