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Heya,

Has anyone here done the lower engine mounts - Gearbox and rear on the XU10J4R? Seems like mine are shagged!

Whats involved - Is it a tricky job or should I just pay my mechanic to do the job? My mate with a XU10 306 reckoned that it was a fairly tricky job for the rear mount but should be doable in a few hours...

Parts wise - whats required, just the mounts?

Cheers - from your Aussie 406oc'er

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I'll be doing mine when I change my clutch. I think the gearbox mount should be straightforward, but the bottom one requires removal of the driveshaft. Good luck with that!
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mjb wrote:I'll be doing mine when I change my clutch. I think the gearbox mount should be straightforward, but the bottom one requires removal of the driveshaft. Good luck with that!
Thanks mate!

Anyone else had experience with this? Doesn't seem like a tricky job, just a tad time consuming?
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Cant for the life of me remember how, as I was there when they did it, but the garage I took mine to for the bottom mount changed it without taking the driveshaft out.
They undid a few bits, cut the old one out, pressed the new one in.
The longest part of the job was getting the undertrays off.
I did have to drive a 200 mile round trip to get to this garage, but they charge cheaper than any local garage. and I needed to change over 10 tyres.
Im sure it wouldnt have been so quick if I had done it myself.
New gearbox diff seals? if your taking the driveshaft out?
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HI,
To do bottom rear engine mount quickly. MUSCLES ARE REQUIRED....!
Oil fouling and numerous gearchanges kill this part fairly frequently.
Get the help of an assistant and you need the car high above you on garage ramps.
Remove the stabiliser bar between bush and subframe.
Hammer out the old bush. Usually collapses, then chisel out the old metal part.
The new bush needs to have a 'slight' amount of work on a bench grinder to make ever so slightly smaller.
Get your assistant to push engine forwards whilst gently drifting the new bush in with some grease for lubrication.
Refit stabiliser bar and ensure that its tighened correctly as sometimes the go loose.
The lads say..'dont be frightened!'
Make sure you get the correct bush as there are differences between models.
I've seen this done a few times with no problems in the taxi garages and takes around 25 mins from start to finish.
I've had 2 done before now on the d8 and seen it done on a d9 also.

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bangernom1cs wrote:on garage ramps
I imagine most people who have access to garage equipment would be able to do it without instruction anyway :/
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25 minutes - Thats insane!!!

Won't bother with the gearbox seals or anything like that as they are all new when I had the new gearbox put in! Had the top mount done at the same time, looking back on it - probably should of had the lower ones done as well!

Ahhhh well.... :evil:

Thanks heaps guys - much appreciated,

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teamster1975 wrote:Bit more reading Joel.
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I tried twice on my lower mount. The second time cutting out all the rubber (1 hour), then using a hacksaw to cut two valleys along its length (1.5 hours, + mutiple broken hacksaw blades). Then smasshed seven shades of crap out of it using a chisel, lump hammer, screwdrivers anything I could, (2 hours). The end result: Still the mount wouldn't release. Ended up taking it the main dealers and paying £100 for them to do it.

Best £100 I have spent after 4.5 hours of pain!
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I've replaced a few bushes in the bottom mount, Getting the driveshaft out of the mount can be tricky as they usually get stuck in due no assembly grease being used. I cut the rubber out, or burn it out with a blow torch, then cut the metal part of the bush right through. Using a cold chisel I bend it inwards and it falls out (Well with alot of hammering) Heating up the mount with a blow torch helps refitting the bush, Also using a big vice to press it in works quite well, or a big hammer :) I now have access to a press so that makes things alot easier, I'm sure a local garage will press a new one in for you for a few quid...

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