Engine swap!

puggy · Post by **puggy** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:31 pm

Brake cylinder sounds like a good bet.... you had a look at the
inside of the rear drums to see if any fluid on em incase the seal
has gone..

Foghorn Leghorn · Post by **Foghorn Leghorn** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:33 pm

Blimey!

Fair play to you for sticking at it, you've had your run of problems so far haven't you?!

Fog

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:21 pm

Driven a few cars need need of new rear brake shoes and the pedal does pretty much go to the floor.

if your going in the drums I'd replace the cylinders and shoes to be safe. I'd expect the parts will cost around £40 and then they are done for least 60k (if you have £40 after all the stuff you've had to do!). Also give the drums good clean, especially if a cylinder has leaked!

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:12 pm

as puggy said, rear wheel cylinders are a favorite as well as mullerd shoes, get the back end on axle stands, take the drums off, compress the cylinders if you get any fluid come out they are certainly buggerd, then get an assitant to press the brake while you watch the cylinder expand if it leaks then, they are buggerd, also check the brake height level compensating valve underneath, they quite often leak too

robbie123 · Post by **robbie123** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:32 pm

Cheers guys! Yeh this is becoming a mammoth thread eh? Well money is very low at the moment (was left heavily in overdraught from last uni term) but I still have my credit cards lol! Yeh i'm bidding on a new set of shoes on ebay and should hopefully win them for about £7 with postage. Have found some new cylinders for about a tenner a side after postage so hopefully should be a relatively cheap repair!

Are Drum brakes quite simple to get around? Never touched a drum brake in my life lol. All my volvos had discs! Is Haynes pretty accurate on these matters?

Cheers,

Rob

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:40 am

Drum brakes are fairly simple, two real problems getting the drum off - normally fixed with big hammer or bar. The springs that hold the shoes on - they are always tricky to do and normally have to be done in the extract right order or they wont go on, haynes normally manages to get this right.

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:59 pm

robbie123 wrote:Never touched a drum brake in my life lol. All my volvos had discs!
Rob

480 rear discs an be a right bugger to change though as the calipers are always bloody seized

drums are pretty simple, two words of advice, use the haynes manual and take both drums off, but dismantle one side at a time so you can refer to the other side if you get confused, which you will

robbie123 · Post by **robbie123** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:29 pm

jameslxdt wrote:
robbie123 wrote:Never touched a drum brake in my life lol. All my volvos had discs!
Rob
480 rear discs an be a right bugger to change though as the calipers are always bloody seized
drums are pretty simple, two words of advice, use the haynes manual and take both drums off, but dismantle one side at a time so you can refer to the other side if you get confused, which you will

480 rear calipers are only seized because monkey kwik(sh*t)-fit fitters just press teh calipers in as if they are normal calipers rather than unscrewing the buggers as should be done!!! Anyway I was usually more concerned with the caliper retaining bracket bolts...! They just chamfer off like bastards! I purchased an £80 Sykes Picavant socket set and a breaker bar when I got annoyed at them not shifting. Luckily good tools = No hassle and they aren't too bad to move with good stuff. I have been forced to angle grind the bolts off and weld a nut to the thread in order to get the bastard things off though in the past! Ho hum i digress...Those T55/T60 caliper retaining bolts on the 406 are just a fantastic idea....NOT! Torx bolts are the worst thing in the world GRRRRRR! They are only good for hammering into goosed alan key holes!

Anyway...Rant over! Got new sheos and managed to shift 3 of my 4 locking wheel nuts so I can get teh rear wheels off. Tomorrow night I'm going to jack the car up and get to work. Then if I need new wheel cylinders I can do that on friday. Hoping it is just teh shoes that are monkeyed though! I'm definately not loosing any brake fluid...!

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:14 pm

robbie123 wrote:
jameslxdt wrote:
robbie123 wrote:Never touched a drum brake in my life lol. All my volvos had discs!
Rob
480 rear discs an be a right bugger to change though as the calipers are always bloody seized
drums are pretty simple, two words of advice, use the haynes manual and take both drums off, but dismantle one side at a time so you can refer to the other side if you get confused, which you will
480 rear calipers are only seized because monkey kwik(sh*t)-fit fitters just press teh calipers in as if they are normal calipers rather than unscrewing the buggers as should be done!!!

i made that mistake once and told the customer they needed new calipers, and got away lightly, thankfully i dont see many of those at all these days