starting problem 406 hdi 110,2002.

[Phil406]

Hi guys,not used this car for some time but am putting back on road now,i have replaced the glow plugs but car still wont start from cold,if i use a tiny bit of easy start it will start first turn of the key,less than 1 second burst,once it has been started it will start every time but if left over night its back to the easy start even on a hot day like today.

would be greatfull for any ideas on this please... thanks Phil

[teamster1975]

I don't know the diesel engine however I found this article on easy start which may give some clues.

[Phil406]

that link wont work bud.

[teamster1975]

Strange, it does for me
Google "What does easy start do" and it should be at the top.

[lozz]

inever use Easy start its Bad,

the Ether can turn your car into a Sniff junkie they can get Hooked on easy start and become lazy starters ,

iuse Brake cleaner for starting derv engines people might laugh but its better than easy start

[Phil406]

never heard that one before i'll give it a go,would rather find the problem thou and use nothing at all

[Phil406]

just googled the easy start,thanks interesting read,dont seem to much to worry about seems to be more lazy drivers not fixing the problem than a prob with easy start thou thats why i want to find the problem and sort it

[Doggy]

...and in a surprise change to the habit of a lifetime, Doggy hi-jacks the thread back to the original problem.

Phil, is the cranking speed is OK? (if it's too slow the ecu wont fire the injectors, hence no fuel - no ignition, till you add some Easy Start).

Next most likely suspect is the in-tank lift pump - can you hear it run for 4 or 5 seconds when you turn on the ignition?

Might also be an idea to pop one of the quick release couplings on the fuel filter and check if you've got fuel there, the next time it won't start.

[Phil406]

...and in a surprise change to the habit of a lifetime, Doggy hi-jacks the thread back to the original problem.

Phil, is the cranking speed is OK? (if it's too slow the ecu wont fire the injectors, hence no fuel - no ignition, till you add some Easy Start).

Next most likely suspect is the in-tank lift pump - can you hear it run for 4 or 5 seconds when you turn on the ignition?

Might also be an idea to pop one of the quick release couplings on the fuel filter and check if you've got fuel there, the next time it won't start.

Thanks,tank lift pump is working fine and engine turns over quickly,i'll take a look at the filter tomorrow and see if full pulling through thanks for that

[Phil406]

just a thought....would the fact that the diesel in the tank is over 2 years old ? if so is there an additive i could get to liven it up like ya get for petrol engines ?

[Doggy]

Don't know if it would make a difference, but it might have absorbed water out of the atmosphere.

Have you tried draining some from the filter bowl to check?

Water can cause the filter element to twist and block. After laying it up for so long, it wouldn't hurt to change the filter, just not sure if you should try to use this tankful up first?

[Phil406]

ok thanks i'll see if i can get filter out and have a look

[stealthe]

iuse Brake cleaner for starting derv engines people might laugh but its better than easy start

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Don't try this at home.

stealthe

[Phil406]

Think i'll give the brake cleaner a miss thanks for that post stealthe

[Doggy]

The other thing to consider is that fuel lubricates the HP pump. If you manage to turn the engine for a significant period without fuel, it can wreck the pump, then bits of pump wreck the injectors and so on.....