HOWTO: Rear brake pads

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HOWTO: Rear brake pads

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Thought I'd share this one with y'all :)

1. Take the wheel off. Duh. I strongly recommend the use of a spider wrench (the things with 2 bars in an 'X' shape with a socket at each end) as they make sure you put rotational pressure on the nut. This makes the security nut easy, without all that slipping off you get with a normal wrench. Notice the copper slip. Without it, you can end up needing a bar to get the wheel off :shock:
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2. The enemy.
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3. This is what it looks like from behind. If you want to take the calliper off, you need to remove the bolt at the bottom and the allen bolt that's behind the cap at the top (the big rubber cylinder). Notice the pins? No? That's behind a load of crud.
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4. Hose it off with WD40. Lots of it. You can see the calliper pins now. What you need to do is remove the 2 shiny cotter pins you can see, then take a punch and a BIG hammer and whack the crap out of the pins from this direction. This can be EXCEPTIONALLY difficult.
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5. Here I've switched to the other side and removed the pins :cheesy: When you've pulled the old pads out, clean everything up. You may want to take something abrasive to the top and bottom lips
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6. This is what's in the new kit. 2 shiny new pins, 2 cotter pins and a new clip. Here you can see what the pins are supposed to look like
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7. New pads, copper slip the backs up. This isn't how mine went in, I needed to file away the ears (see note above about the calliper opening) so they'd fit in without jamming
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8. Copper slip the pins, putting the top one in first with the clip, like this
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9. DONE! Nest time I'll copper slip the top and bottom too
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Nice job Matt :)
Had the previous owner parked the car in a 1 ft deep puddle for a month?! What a state those calipers are in! :shock:
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Very nice! Keep them coming - has this fixed the grinding noise?
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Captain Jack wrote:Very nice! Keep them coming - has this fixed the grinding noise?
Ish. It's subsided a lot, but I can still hear grinding. Suspect the calliper's still a bit stiff, but I'll see about replacing them when I get round to doing the discs+shoes+pads. I may try just jacking it up and working the pistons for half hour or so, see if I can free them up a bit
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mjb wrote:
Captain Jack wrote:Very nice! Keep them coming - has this fixed the grinding noise?
Ish. It's subsided a lot, but I can still hear grinding. Suspect the calliper's still a bit stiff, but I'll see about replacing them when I get round to doing the discs+shoes+pads. I may try just jacking it up and working the pistons for half hour or so, see if I can free them up a bit
could it be the handbrake thats doing it?
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totaleclipse wrote:could it be the handbrake thats doing it?
There is *some* noise from the handbrake, especially after I tightened it up the other day, but the bulk of the noise is definitely coming from the pads since it changes tone every time I hit the slow pedal...

Nevertheless, at least it's bearable now
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Cool, useful info for a n00b like me
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Is that a hair-line crack I can see where the disc meets the hub part?

If it's cracked it would acount for strange noises and goings on!

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Hmm never thought of that. Could be!

The noise was back with a vengeance this evening, so I'm going to go into a wee bit of unauthorised overdraft and get some new discs, pads and shoes. It really is pretty unbearable

Naturally I'll be taking more pics when I do the job (if I can get the discs off :shock: )
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Welton wrote:Is that a hair-line crack I can see where the disc meets the hub part?

If it's cracked it would acount for strange noises and goings on!
Heaven forbid the whole weld failed! :shock:
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Weld?? It's a single lump :shock: That could just be rust build up, but if there's any possiblity that it is cracked don't drive it!
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The first picture shows what may be a crack/broken disc, of course it could be shadow etc.

To confirm, I would remove the caliper and turn the disc around, pulling at the edge of the disc to see if there is any flexing. Maybe get a bar in the gap where the pads fit and lever the disc to see if it flexes.
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The disc doesn't flex - I levered against it extensively to un-seize the pads before I decided to change them :shock: :oops:

I'm going to get all new brake consumables tomorrow lunch time and hopefully see if I can get one side replaced tomorrow night after work. Could be interesting because I have exactly zero knowledge of drum brakes, the Haynes is as clear as mud, and as usual I'm against the clock (sunset 18:17) :shock:

Any links to 406 handbrake shoe replacement pictures would be gratefully received... :lol:
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mjb wrote:Any links to 406 handbrake shoe replacement pictures would be gratefully received...
Well I haven't got any pics but I've done the job loads of times; get me on MSN and I'll give you some pointers Matt.
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