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Hi I'm Adam, currently own a 306 Rallye in Cherry Red on an uber rare S plate.
After a V6 estate manual if anyone has one knocking about as I need a bit more space for work/child etc etc Doesn't have to be particularly clean as it'll probably be wrapped for the business. :supafrisk:

Any FAQs/buying guides most welcome as I know bugger all about these. 306s and 205s I can talk til the cows come home! :cheesy:
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adambrallye wrote:After a V6 estate manua
EXCELLENT choice. I've had a 2.0 turbo estate, V6 saloon and now I'm on a V6 coupé and I'm still in 2 minds about whether or not I should have had another estate or not. If you need the doors and boot space (the coupé and saloon both have similar and piss poor boot space compared to the cavernous estate) I'd go down those lines in a heartbeat. Although I would consider a 530 or better estate if I could get one stupidly cheaply :lol: )
Any FAQs/buying guides most welcome as I know bugger all about these. 306s and 205s I can talk til the cows come home! :cheesy:
Ditto the bigger petrol engined 406s ;)

You have two major decisions: D8 (1997-1999) or D9 (1999-2004), and 194bhp ES9J4 (1997-2001) or 210bhp ES9J4S (2001-2004).

The D8 is MUCH more solid in terms of the electricals. The D9 uses the fragile BSI which I'm sure you being a 306 nut know about. The trip computer display in a D9 is MUCH cooler though. My late 1999 coupé is an in-between model of D9 electricals with the 194bhp ES9J4 engine.

As far as the engines go, the ES9J4S is apparently a lot smoother but for some reason has a slower 0-60 speed. Mechanically they're pretty much the same in terms of reliability, but the ES9J4 has one coil pack with 3 coil whereas the ES9J4S has 6 pencil coils and VVT. I've only heard of one person having issues with the VVT solenoid, although the J4S has a fly-by-wire throttle which makes cruise control a hell of a lot more reliable but it's a lot more sensitive to a knackered throttle pot

The body... listen on a test drive for suspension knocks, they're usually minor but they're effort to fix (due to the wheelarch liner screws rusting). Expect the handbrake to be useless. With an OEM exhaust (very expensive) all you should hear while driving is the road, but cheaper egg sauces WILL make a lot of noise given the engine displacement. Not too much noise though, check that back box carefully, and use it as a haggling point if not on ebay. Given the length of the car, it's hard to tell whether you've got a minor blowing or a checp egg sauce.

Check EVERYTHING electrical. On D8s fixes are easy, but on D9s they could be signs of BSI failure. ES9J4 cruise control failure is pretty normal, I've yet to work out why, but it's a simple system albeit bloody inaccessible. Also check the centre rear seat belt. They've got a habit of screwing up on estates, sometimes irrepairably (which you need to cut)
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Welcome Adam! :)
1996 406 1.8LX Got a bad case of hydro lock!
1996 406 Executive 2.0 Turbo XU10J2TE No longer hangin' on in there :(
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Holy f**k this jagermeister's not bad. That was a rather impressive post ;)
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Oh no, not the Jagermeister... :supafrisk:
1996 406 1.8LX Got a bad case of hydro lock!
1996 406 Executive 2.0 Turbo XU10J2TE No longer hangin' on in there :(
1997 Honda CB500V
2003 Volvo V40 1.8 GDi SE killed by a nutter in a beemer 5 series
2008 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi Titanium X

"Always look on the bright side of life, dedo, dedo dedodedo"
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teamster1975 wrote:Oh no, not the Jagermeister... :supafrisk:
I can't believe it's taken me this long to find it. It's pleasant on the system so it won't invoke spew any more than beer will, yet one 500ml bottle has the same alcomohol (intended) as 6 stellas but the effect of about 8... I quite like it. Not going to drink it out; shots cost the earth, but it's bloody nice at home, served from the freezer

Tastes like cough syrup when it's warm though!
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It's amusing watching my mates succumb to it when I'm driving :lol: :lol:
Still, I've got my best mates stag do to organise, then the fun begins!! :twisted:
1996 406 1.8LX Got a bad case of hydro lock!
1996 406 Executive 2.0 Turbo XU10J2TE No longer hangin' on in there :(
1997 Honda CB500V
2003 Volvo V40 1.8 GDi SE killed by a nutter in a beemer 5 series
2008 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi Titanium X

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Ta very much!
To be fair you don't get a great deal of problems with the GTi6/rallye electricals, more the odd sensor packing up. I bought the rallye as it doesn't have anywhere near as many to start with which is only a good thing on Peugeot. So an ideal mix would be later spec engine with old spec electrics. Hard enough to find the buggers to start with!

Are they completely rubbish on fuel too? I'm used to 30 average in the 306, but found 20 hard to stomach on my old single turbo legacy wagon.

Thanks :cheesy:
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Ah well ended up buying a D8 estate 1.9TD smoke machine with 135k on the clock for bugger all money.
Just got to fix it now - blown turbo or injector timing or head gasket (well for starters).
Good car (for the money) apart from the engine so all good.

Going to keep the rallye :twisted:
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