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Oil extractor question

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I believe some of you have used a vacuum pump of some kind to drain the engine oil without using the drain plug with the added 'fun' of fighting with under-trays etc. I'm keen to give this a go as the Cistern has started whingeing about a service...

Any recommendations on a suitable gadget?

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I see 'Pela' oil pumps talked about with enthusiasm on the Volvo Forum.

TBH I want one because it's a proper PITA wrestling with the undertray and last time I did it on my cold concrete floor it made me feel quite ill with the near constant little knocks to the noggin :(
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Mityvac 7201,

Not cheep but a brilliant bit of kit.

There are cheeper but you get what you pay for :roll:

JB Tools seem the cheepest, the MV7400 should be enough for your needs

The Sealey S01169 might be enough @ 6.5 litres & a bit cheeper still at Toolbay.
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Welly wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:23 am I see 'Pela' oil pumps talked about with enthusiasm on the Volvo Forum.

TBH I want one because it's a proper PITA wrestling with the undertray and last time I did it on my cold concrete floor it made me feel quite ill with the near constant little knocks to the noggin :(
& This is why I'm less enthusiastic than Bailes with regards to my gearbox oil flush, I'd be doing it
outside on my driveway (which is a 20% slope) just jacking a car up at home presents it's own challenges :roll:
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Pela 600, Mitivac, I'm seeing all sorts tested and approved but it's mostly Yank stuff unfortunately. I've also seeing those little fluid transfer pumps being used for it, the sort of thing that was in Lidl a couple of weeks back... :?
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Thank you all for the quick replies. 8)

Pela looks like £48/£49 delivered.

Sealey £42.25 from Tools4Trade with free delivery for orders over £50, (must be summat else I needs)'
(Toolbay is £49.95 + delivery £?)

Mityvac 7400 £49ish + delivery
Mityvac 7201 £67ish,
interesting comparison here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp1Rwi8QnEs

After watching that video I'm thinking external vac pump like the Mityvac 7201 is the way to go, not yet sure if the Pela and/or Sealey have that feature. Thinking to go look see at local suppliers.......
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Some brief 'youtubing' seems to say that you'll be cranking that Pela pump almost every minute to maintain a vacuum, don't think I'd like that.

I saw Lidl's oil pumps recently but the fluid-transfer rate seemed very slow....so much so I read the specs on the packaging and put it back.
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Ah well, I didn't even look at them 'cos the only liquid I need to pump around these days is rainwater, and I already have some pretty good pumps for that.
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You're all a bunch of pansies. If your armpit isn't full of oil at the end of an oil change, did you even change the oil? :supafrisk:
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:lol:

I think to me it's more about the time; jacking the car, axle stands, wrestle the undertray (then later fabricate some elaborate tie-wraps and washer fixings*) transferring oil between containers.....

I do 4 oil changes per year and if there was an economical way of quickly whipping out old oil then I'd go for it. To be honest though I don't think I want to spend £50 to £70 on this right now. I've actually got the oil service kit for the Shitroen right now - awaiting me clearing some garage space to do it :roll:
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Bailes1992 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:52 pm You're all a bunch of pansies. If your armpit isn't full of oil at the end of an oil change, did you even change the oil? :supafrisk:
I guess you're right - I've even taking to wearing gloves :shock:
Welly wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:29 am :lol:

I think to me it's more about the time; jacking the car, axle stands, wrestle the undertray (then later fabricate some elaborate tie-wraps and washer fixings*) transferring oil between containers.....

I do 4 oil changes per year and if there was an economical way of quickly whipping out old oil then I'd go for it. To be honest though I don't think I want to spend £50 to £70 on this right now. I've actually got the oil service kit for the Shitroen right now - awaiting me clearing some garage space to do it :roll:
True.
I have an unsightly corner under the hedge with a minging basin + funnel, couple of mats to lie on and a souvenir 406 undertray. :oops:
Spending more than I want to on said pump would probably motivate me to clean it / stash in the shed.
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Doggy wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:31 am wearing gloves
I get through loads of Nitrile Gloves :oops:

That's if you can afford them - seems only now the OMGCOVID fair* pricing scheme is only just settling down - think I paid £10 for 100 gloves 2 weeks ago - they have been more than double that recently :frown:
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I tend to have an oil change day twice a year. I let everyone know that I'm changing oil and if they want theirs done to bring a car and a filter. I usually have 30-40 litres of oil in the garage at any one time. Usually I bulk buy something with Porsche A40 approval as it's a very stout and tough specification coupled with ACEA C3 so it's Mid-Saps, a good 'universal' oil so to speak. Alternatively I look for VAG 504/507, again it's a very stringent specification, will do 20k intervals if needed in most engines and is emissions equipment safe being Mid-SAPS. Buying in bulk I can usually get the cost down to £2-£3 a litre.

I'm not a huge fan on crawling around under cars and getting covered in oil, BUT I do find oil changed therapeutic. :supafrisk:
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The used oil in the Citroen comes out extremely thin/runny I think Diesel fuel gets into the sump on regens so it's nice to know you've added fresh oil just to save the poor thing from more hardship.
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Welly wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:23 am The used oil in the Citroen comes out extremely thin/runny
John Cleese wrote: "Oh, I like it runny"
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