Duel Mass Flywheel

[MDB929]

I did think it was the DMF letting its presence known but then I had the compressions checked

Lordy, tell me more...

I drove 240 miles in the 'new' car on Saturday. It was excellent, really steady at 90mph on the motorway and the fuel gauge has hardly moved. If it stays like this for any reasonable length of time then I will be perfectly happy. I'm not expecting not to have to spend something on it, it's a nine year old car and I'm not that naiive. I'm just trying to ascertain just how unreliable the D9's really are, or if it's an impression I'm getting simply because this forum has members who are only participating BECAUSE they've got problems...

[steve_earwig]

You'll find most car forums attract people with problems, then they usually stick around for the, er, scene.

Yes, the D9s do have some potentially bad problems but, judging by the amount of cars we get in here compared to how many sold, the majority of them never have any major issues. Anyway, you have a D8, or am I missing something?

Have a look through Honest John and see if you can find a car in the last 10 years that doesn't have a potential disaster lurking somewhere, especially when everything went multiplex (I direct you to the Renault Laguna for maximum comedy).

Which reminds me, I hear through the grapevine here that some new A series Merc's engines aren't making it past their first service and Mercedes are doing their damnedest to hush it up.

[mjb]

You'll find most car forums attract people with problems

*snigger*

[MDB929]

Anyway, you have a D8, or am I missing something?

I now have both - we've got a '97 2.1 tdi Executive which is much loved and still a joy to drive, and last week I picked up a very tidy '99 2.0 HDi 110, which is a D9 of course. I would have gone for another D8 2.1, but in these straightened times I want 50mpg. Though as others have said on here, if you end up spending a fortune keeping the thing running it's a false economy...

It's only got to last two years without costing me an arm and a leg. If it does that, then the economy alone will save me enough money to be able to keep my FireBlade. If it doesn't, then I'm going to be bikeless, and that would be a disaster. Well it would for me, I don't imagine the wife would be too unhappy.

Have a look through Honest John and see if you can find a car in the last 10 years that doesn't have a potential disaster lurking somewhere, especially when everything went multiplex (I direct you to the Renault Laguna for maximum comedy).

Yes, very familar with Mr HJ, and you're absolutely right, there isn't a car on there which doesn't get some sort of panning.

Which reminds me, I hear through the grapevine here that some new A series Merc's engines aren't making it past their first service and Mercedes are doing their damnedest to hush it up.

Ooooh, automotive gossip, love it...

[steve_earwig]

Ah, so you're in more-or-less the same boat as me. The 2.1 has been a good car, a few stupid faults of course, but nothing too expensive, so I decided to use up my last bit of savings to buy the latest 406 I could find and be able to drive a car I know all about into the next decade. Then I come here and find that, not only is it more likely to go wrong, it'll also cost a hell of a lot more to fix.

I'm trying not to panic every time I hear a noise but it's difficult, despite telling myself that they don't all go bang...

One thing about the consumption, around town I was getting about 39 in the 2.1 but now I'm getting about 43mpg in the HDi, so not really that much better to be honest.

[MDB929]

Ah, so you're in more-or-less the same boat as me. The 2.1 has been a good car, a few stupid faults of course, but nothing too expensive, so I decided to use up my last bit of savings to buy the latest 406 I could find and be able to drive a car I know all about into the next decade. Then I come here and find that, not only is it more likely to go wrong, it'll also cost a hell of a lot more to fix.

I'm trying not to panic every time I hear a noise but it's difficult, despite telling myself that they don't all go bang...

One thing about the consumption, around town I was getting about 39 in the 2.1 but now I'm getting about 43mpg in the HDi, so not really that much better to be honest.

Yep, that pretty much sums up what I'm trying to achieve. Thing is that my parents have an 01 HDi which has been excellent, so I decided to go down this road... Ho hum, we'll have to see, won't we? Fortunately most of my driving is main roads and countryside, very little in town, so I should realise some savings.

[Welly]

Worry not my friend, the D9 HDi early versions like mine and yours are at the pinnacle of engineering my DMF crapped out 2 years ago and still provides sterling service (with my excellent clutch action).

My theory is that fuel pumps ONLY go wrong if they've had petrol through them at some point and anything else that may go wrong is no different to any other motor out there.

The good thing about these cars is that they still soldier on with the most horrific injuries which would leave other makes in the lay-by's. Currently my turbo is blowing it's compressed air out of somewhere and the ecu goes into limp home mode every few miles but a simple re-start of the engine fixes itself (going in for 2 days tomorrow for this and a brake/oil service and suspension bushings) I'm looking forward to geting it back all good and fixed - it's a great car!

All in all it's the cheapest, most reliable and comfortable car I've ever had (apart fromt the air con but you don't have to have that working).

Welcome btw

[MDB929]

Welcome btw

Thank you

Worry not my friend, the D9 HDi early versions like mine and yours are at the pinnacle of engineering my DMF crapped out 2 years ago and still provides sterling service (with my excellent clutch action).

My theory is that fuel pumps ONLY go wrong if they've had petrol through them at some point and anything else that may go wrong is no different to any other motor out there.

The good thing about these cars is that they still soldier on with the most horrific injuries which would leave other makes in the lay-by's. Currently my turbo is blowing it's compressed air out of somewhere and the ecu goes into limp home mode every few miles but a simple re-start of the engine fixes itself (going in for 2 days tomorrow for this and a brake/oil service and suspension bushings) I'm looking forward to geting it back all good and fixed - it's a great car!

All in all it's the cheapest, most reliable and comfortable car I've ever had (apart fromt the air con but you don't have to have that working).

Well that's certainly what I wanted to hear. But...

Had to be towed home by the RAC last weekend The oil cooler decided to give up the ghost so I lost a good deal of oil on the way to Northampton. A replacement isn't too costly and I can do it myself, but it isn't a great start... I was a bit surprised as well, that's not the sort of thing I've heard of being a weak point. In fact I didn't know the HDi's even HAD an oil cooler

[Welly]

In fact I didn't know the HDi's even HAD an oil cooler

They haven't! some cars have an internal water-to-oil heat exchanger but I wasn't aware on the HDi there's definately not an air-to-oil cooler in the engine bay