Am I getting the correct MPG?

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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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ZilogJones wrote:FAP is Peugeot-ese for particulate filter or DPF :)

Thanks mate :wink:

Where does this filter live on my car (2001 D9 110 HDI) and how easy is it to remove?
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The HDi 110 didn't come with a FAP fitted (well, there are allegedly some, but we've never had one on these forums).

The FAP system also includes a diesel additive system which uses cerene fluid, which is very expensive, and the cerene system can only be topped up by a dealer because the ECU needs to be told that the tank has been recharged.

De-FAPing the car removes the need for the cerene tank; some people leave it physically in place (but empty), other people have removed the cerene system entirely.
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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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highlander wrote:The HDi 110 didn't come with a FAP fitted (well, there are allegedly some, but we've never had one on these forums).

The FAP system also includes a diesel additive system which uses cerene fluid, which is very expensive, and the cerene system can only be topped up by a dealer because the ECU needs to be told that the tank has been recharged.

De-FAPing the car removes the need for the cerene tank; some people leave it physically in place (but empty), other people have removed the cerene system entirely.
I see....... Thank you mate.

Would de-catting my car help release a few more horses?
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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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Potentially - though I think it was Plod that did it and said he found no difference (just more noise and smoke).

You'd be better with a customized stainless steel system; ask them to give you an exhaust that really helps your car's performance. You will need to tell your insurance company about the stainless system though.
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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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highlander wrote:Potentially - though I think it was Plod that did it and said he found no difference (just more noise and smoke).

You'd be better with a customized stainless steel system; ask them to give you an exhaust that really helps your car's performance. You will need to tell your insurance company about the stainless system though.
I think that was Doggy mate

Unfortunately I can't give a balanced opinion as I decat'd at same time as fitting the Powerflow from a V6 coupe
The combo made the turbo spool up quicker, and does feel faster
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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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plod wrote:I think that was Doggy mate
That be true, I didn't notice any difference, but concede it may have helped a bit. It probably depends on how blocked your cat is to start with - my previous HDi 90 Xsara was pretty choked up towards the end, exhaust didn't even smell catalysed. It didn't really affect ultimate power, but definetely caused significant turbo lag.
Both the cat and fap elements I removed from the 406 were surprisingly clear. Compared to the power hikes that came from getting it out of permanent limp mode, then remapping, any difference was insignificant.
Unfortunately I can't give a balanced opinion as I decat'd at same time as fitting the Powerflow from a V6 coupe
The combo made the turbo spool up quicker, and does feel faster
What's this? You joining Graeme on the Powerflo gravy train, then Plod?
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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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One tank of fuel, 1106 miles covered, 68 miles range remaining, 64.2 av. mpg, 42 av. mph. Mixed roads on a 25 mile commute. :D

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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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Sorry - but i'm getting 32mpg from my 2.0 Petrol!

Check the MAF and everything else - i'd be expecting 40's!
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Re: Am I getting the correct MPG?

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dogslife wrote:
plod wrote:Unfortunately I can't give a balanced opinion as I decat'd at same time as fitting the Powerflow from a V6 coupe
The combo made the turbo spool up quicker, and does feel faster
What's this? You joining Graeme on the Powerflo gravy train, then Plod?

Maybe :lol:
This is the post from June 6th Last year on my "plod's HDi 140" thread
plod wrote:Bit more work done today

Need another clamp,but for now

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Need to tweak the mounts slightly to shift the tailpipe over to the right fractionally, but quite pleased.

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De-cat'd it at same time, and the turbo lag has gone - spools up so much quicker now 8)
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