Introducing the Vauxhall "Adam"

[lozz]

no one will laugh on here honest

Well, no more than the piss-taking I got for the Volvo

iwasnt involved in any of that Sir,

but if you buy one of them poxhalls, iwill join in sorry


only joking, theres nowt wrong with vauxhalls,

[steve_earwig]

Had one in the showroom here a few weeks back. Looks ok, main gimmick is choice of colours and trims inside and out, apparently you can specify roof lining that lights up like the night sky lol.

Will they only be doing "overcast" for UK models?

[rwb]

Well, no more than the piss-taking I got for the Volvo

It would appear that you've had the last laugh on that one.

theres nowt wrong with vauxhalls

Easy servicing and cheap parts, I'm told.

[scotty73]

There was a Mercedes in my class at school

were you in the A-class?

Oh fuckit I'll get me own coat.

[Captain Jack]

Oh you guys....

[lozz]

Well, no more than the piss-taking I got for the Volvo

It would appear that you've had the last laugh on that one.

theres nowt wrong with vauxhalls

Easy servicing and cheap parts, I'm told.

on some models it is,

ithink alot just wait until the Ashtray is full and trade it in.
hence saving on service costs too,

ionly liked early vaux cars, Novas and mk 2 and 3 cavaliers,

[Sonia406]

It's Adam as in Adam Opel, innit? Wot, are you fick or summink?

Looks nothing like him, no beard see?

Up next:
Ford Henry (sounds like a vacuum cleaner)
Peugeot Armand (almond?)
Citroen umm André-Gustave (thanks Wiki)
Volkswagen Adolf...

I see what you did there

[Doggy]

Vauxhalls have been much improved, IMHO, since they gave up making them and sold Opels, starting with the 'shoveit', in 1975 ish.

I fear they may now have taken a wrong turn.

[lozz]

I fear they may now have taken a wrong turn. [/quote]

Aye yeah, there now sharing a desk with Citreon arnt they,
our local vauxall dealer is citreon too confused me abit that,

[Sonia406]

I fear they may now have taken a wrong turn.

Aye yeah, there now sharing a desk with Citreon arnt they,
our local vauxall dealer is citreon too confused me abit that, [/quote]

I am getting rather peed off with car manufactorers sharing names, models and parts - maybe that's just me!
I want to buy a Peugeot knowing it's 100% Peugeot, none of my Peugeots have been the direct result of a design share with Citroen or Fiat but I am a little tired of hearing or seeing the same car just re-badged differently........

Can't they just make their own cars and be 100% genuine, instead of sharing bits and bobs and models......

I say none of my Peugeot's have been design shared.. HE had 2 806's which as you know are also available with different badges as Citroen & Fiat........

Too much mating going on

[Captain Jack]

Yes and have you seen the latest Audis and VWs? I have to look at the actual badge to figure out what make it is as all headlamps are the same between them.

Hateful cars.....

At least there are actual body design differences between the pug and the Citroen... except the 107 and c1

[KozmoNaut]

There are far too many types of cars these days. SUVs, MPVs, whatever-else-Vs.

What was wrong with just a simple saloon and an estate? I despise medium-sized hatchbacks (Focus, Golf etc.) even though they've been around for a while and those good-for-nothing X1s and Q3s that the German companies seem to be pumping out. They clearly found an idiots' market.

The only two body styles that are really needed are hatchbacks and estates, everything else is silly and impractical. I say "body styles", because in some cases, you need to increase ground clearance and add 4x4, for areas with bad or missing roads. A Golf or Focus is both ridiculously practical, good on fuel, fun to drive and easier to park than a saloon of similar utility (ie. a larger car).

The only reason I bought a saloon instead of an estate 406 is because saloons are 20-30% cheaper for a car in the same mechanical and general condition. Hatches and estates are much more practical, with a saloon you lose a lot of practicality, such as bringing home furniture from Ikea and the like.

I am getting rather peed off with car manufactorers sharing names, models and parts - maybe that's just me!
I want to buy a Peugeot knowing it's 100% Peugeot, none of my Peugeots have been the direct result of a design share with Citroen or Fiat but I am a little tired of hearing or seeing the same car just re-badged differently........

Can't they just make their own cars and be 100% genuine, instead of sharing bits and bobs and models......

The 406 shares its platform with the Xantia. Same with the 407/C5 and 508/C5, the main difference being styling and suspension technology. Engines, gearboxes, electronics, switches etc. are all shared.

If Peugeot were to do a 100% Peugeot car with nothing coming from other places, it would be prohibitively expensive.

It's not quite as bad as with the Eurovan (807/C8/Ulysse) or the work vans (Boxer/Jumper/Ducato), but there's still a lot of sharing going on.

[Sonia406]

There are far too many types of cars these days. SUVs, MPVs, whatever-else-Vs.

What was wrong with just a simple saloon and an estate? I despise medium-sized hatchbacks (Focus, Golf etc.) even though they've been around for a while and those good-for-nothing X1s and Q3s that the German companies seem to be pumping out. They clearly found an idiots' market.

The only two body styles that are really needed are hatchbacks and estates, everything else is silly and impractical. I say "body styles", because in some cases, you need to increase ground clearance and add 4x4, for areas with bad or missing roads. A Golf or Focus is both ridiculously practical, good on fuel, fun to drive and easier to park than a saloon of similar utility (ie. a larger car).

The only reason I bought a saloon instead of an estate 406 is because saloons are 20-30% cheaper for a car in the same mechanical and general condition. Hatches and estates are much more practical, with a saloon you lose a lot of practicality, such as bringing home furniture from Ikea and the like.

I am getting rather peed off with car manufactorers sharing names, models and parts - maybe that's just me!
I want to buy a Peugeot knowing it's 100% Peugeot, none of my Peugeots have been the direct result of a design share with Citroen or Fiat but I am a little tired of hearing or seeing the same car just re-badged differently........

Can't they just make their own cars and be 100% genuine, instead of sharing bits and bobs and models......

The 406 shares its platform with the Xantia. Same with the 407/C5 and 508/C5, the main difference being styling and suspension technology. Engines, gearboxes, electronics, switches etc. are all shared.

If Peugeot were to do a 100% Peugeot car with nothing coming from other places, it would be prohibitively expensive.

It's not quite as bad as with the Eurovan (807/C8/Ulysse) or the work vans (Boxer/Jumper/Ducato), but there's still a lot of sharing going on.

At the end of the day, who in their right mind would build a car and happily share it's design around? IF anyone of us were to build a car (or some other great invention) why would we share our idea so other companies could rake in money from OUR ideas? Makes no bloody sense, as much as the 406 is build based upon the same platform, it is only available in 406.
It's not, say the Peugeot 806 which can be bought in Fiat and Citroen form too.

[steve_earwig]

The trouble is no-one can afford to develop much on their own these days, with all car manufacturers in trouble it makes more sense to develop stuff - engines, transmissions, floorpans etc. - in conjunction with other manufacturers.

[Captain Jack]

BMWs seem to develop their own stuff, right?