Top Gear Looks favourably at a peugeot

[FarmerPug]

At last top gear has said something good about a peugeot, after many years of making fun of them now it seems the peugeot is preferred over a honda:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/rcz-vs ... 2010-10-27
One thing though somewhere in here it referrs to old peugeots understeering badly, what ones are they on about here, i normally associate lift off oversteer with an old peugeot.

[TRAVIS BICKLE]

Lift off is goooood

[Archangel]

theres a 306 on the startup sequence of TopGear( a red one )

and Vicky Butler-Henderson did a a Top Gear test on the 306 Xsi when she was a presenter , far more enthusiastic than Jezza (the wally)and more capable as well

[FarmerPug]

i need to get sky+, thats likely to be the sort of question for some top gear competition name the cars in the opening sequence and i cant awnser that

[highlander]

Jezza, back in the Old Top Gear days, did a "Coupe Shootout" review of several different coupes, including the 406 Coupe. He actually said nice things about it, but it wasn't part of the review for very long before he eliminated it for being a costly runner (the V6, naturally).

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Though in the same year, he was misfortunate enough to be given a Peugeot 406 SRi with the arterial spray interior to review ...

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[FarmerPug]

ahy that was when he complained about the seats, he should have been given an exec to see proper peugeot seats. But in an old book he wrote in the 90s essentially just a collection of his columns from the paper some things are obvious, he liked peugeot, the 406 seemed to get a fairly good review, he hated the vectra, and the rover 75, loved the ford mondeo v6, didnt think much of the vw bora, and doesnt like people who use the word beverage.

[sirwiggum]

Tiffany Dell in a D8 reviewed against a Vectra, Primera and Mondeo. Strange that that shape of Mondeo has all but dissappeared!

Including a rather psychadelic section looking over the 406 dash!

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Seems to like the handling, but doesn't like the power of the 1.8

[FarmerPug]

ahy he gave it a bit of stick because of the dials beeing too wide, obviously its not the 5 dial setup but ive never really thought of the dials being too far apart being an issue it makes them easier to read, and he didnt like diesels the hdi wasnt out in time he may have had a different opinion

[sirwiggum]

ahy he gave it a bit of stick because of the dials beeing too wide, obviously its not the 5 dial setup but ive never really thought of the dials being too far apart being an issue it makes them easier to read, and he didnt like diesels the hdi wasnt out in time he may have had a different opinion

I always thought that the dials were great, certainly clearer than Alfa Romeo dials. Love the chrome rings on mine, and the blue tones on the temperature gauges were particularly striking when I bought it!

The XUDT was one of the best diesels of the time, pre-common rail era.

[FarmerPug]

Indeed it was, in the 80s the xud was easily the best diesel in cars, except for mercedes but then youd need to have been a richo to afford one back then. The XUD in the 90s still was about the best around, but the hdi is better.

[steve_earwig]

That would be a matter of opinion

[FarmerPug]

Indeed it would, but use a decibel-o-meter and the hdi is quieter and thats basically how i judge how good a diesel engine is.
i know there is more areas to look at such as fuel consumption which the hdi is better at, torque and power agian hdi is better, c02 output is lower.

[steve_earwig]

Clusters of unreliable sensors, expensive noisy injectors, my HDi is noisier than my old 2.1 and not much more economical either.

[FarmerPug]

There is more to go wrong indeed but it hasnt intentionally been made to go wrong, its just that it has the potential to go wrong. So a properly functioning hdi engine like the one in my car is better than an xud from my point of view, and for peugeot to compete with the diesels from other companies it needs the hdi.

[FarmerPug]

Though having said that the xud was the best diesel back in its day that you could get (bar the merc 300/250d), even 'he who hates diesel' says its good in this:
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