Traction Control

[FarmerPug]

Thats a car that can be fixed with proper tools like hammers, wrenches, sockets, and pliers

[steve_earwig]

You could probably dismantle & rebuild that on the side or the road using a spoon.

Actually, I was talking about this sort of thing with my mate just now, he's recently sold his old mega-mileage diesel Ashtray and got himself a Piccasso (that's after he spent 2 years taking the wee wee out of my French car ) which is giving him some issues, I said he should have stuck with the Ashtray but he said if we all though like that we'd still be riding horses. Ok, I'll give him that but at least when a horse goes wrong you can eat it

[FarmerPug]

im sure of you asked it nicely it would be greatful to dismantle itself without even needing to touch it

[steve_earwig]

You'd probably need to employ a small boy to walk along behind it & pick up anything that falls off...

[FarmerPug]

what a job title; parts pickeruperer almost as good as Mr Charles Peugeot working for Citroen

[highlander]

Don't know why that's so odd - Peugeot and Citroen are one and the same these days, and have been since PSA Peugeot Citroen formed in 1976.

Your 406? That's a nicer-looking Xantia, that is.

[FarmerPug]

I know they formed, back then citroen went bust developing the sm and a load of other prototypes that never went into production, as well as a huge balls up in the wankel engine buisness with comotor. Peugoet bought them, then there is talbot or chrysler europe peugeot bought that and the factory in ryxton where the 309 was built. And theres now platform sharing between peugeot and citroen like the zx/306, 405/bx, 406/xantia, c5/407, berlingo and partner why they offer both i dont understand they are both identical vans. Anyhow i just find it strange that mr peugeot is working for citroen why couldnt they let him work for peugeot.
One annoying thing about the PSA group is each dealer seems to completley deny the exhistance of the other, if you go to a citroen dealer for help with a peugoet your looked at as if your mad.

[waue1978]

Not always. Our local Peugeot dealer was great when I had problems with my old C5. But then our Citroen dealer is actually the Ford Dealer with 1 Citroen trained mechanic (who rumour has it, was briefly employed by most of the dealers in our town!).

[steve_earwig]

So lots of experience then

[FarmerPug]

I went to a citroen dealer looking to know the correct oil to put in the 406 assuming that the old c5 would be the engine to ask about, they could not awnser my question