Breaking - 52 Plate Exec. Est 110 HDI

[stealthe]

Ah, the very chap I've already okayed a trip with the wife (sort of - you should take someone with you. Who? You can't drive ), I just need to sort out collection with my family back there. Btw I presume the connectors are with the loom, Waue's link says it would have been better with the connectors - how much for your wome... sorry, the loom? Seat heater switches?

Do you need the entire loom or just the plugs for the seats plus some wire? I'm having trouble registering to see the link Waue posted.

Also, I 'may' be able to get them across the channel if that'd help, definitely to Millau, France or possibly to Poland? I'd need some time to arrange that though.

stealthe

[steve_earwig]

I thought you'd want to keep the loom complete, it's the plugs I'd be after so I don't have to use 400 tiny spade connectors.

I'm not sure if picking them up in France or Poland would help, I'd need to fit them to the car somewhere to get them over the border here without getting mugged by the nazis, not something I'd fancy doing in a rush. I was planning to go on say a Monday, come back on a Thursday so I get a couple of days to get them going (and do some shopping while I've got the chance )

[stealthe]

I might be able to sort a bed, tools, covered workspace and an extra pair of hands in france.
Also I can pretty much guarantee at least two pallet loads of space going to france, poland maybe only one, counting the seats as one pallet I could get more stuff to france if you wanted.
I'm in two minds about the loom, obviously once I start cutting it its no longer a complete loom, but the loom for the jbl audio system is strung
through it and I have got plans that could use chunks of the loom/connectors.
Still can't get registered to see that link so I have no idea what has been done/used.

stealthe

[steve_earwig]

It's not much of a guide, it's just a rough outline with a few pics. Obviously all I need to do is figure out what wire does what and use fly leads to fit them into the car and into position so the car's drivable. Once I get it home again I can make it all permanent & pretty. I should be able to do this on my tod 'cos I is an injinear

Worries: If the seats just needs power and earth, why the hell are there so many connectors? What sort of trouble am I in fitting rhd seats into a lhd car? I guess it's just the up & down that'll end up on the wrong seat, I *should* be able to stick the base from my drivers seat on the front passenger one to make it go up & down with the lever. Is there a municipal dump in Millau? I'll need to loose the old seats somehow.

It's still a 13-hour drive to Millau, I've already stuffed it into Google maps and you should see the amount of toll roads At the moment I've asked the wife to come with for the company but I'm not sure if she'll mind floating off to the glove museum via public transport while I play car. At least if she's with me I can justify the expense of a hotel for a night or two.

Give me a couple of days and I'll try to figure out what's best

[Doggy]

Worries: If the seats just needs power and earth, why the hell are there so many connectors? What sort of trouble am I in fitting rhd seats into a lhd car? I guess it's just the up & down that'll end up on the wrong seat, I *should* be able to stick the base from my drivers seat on the front passenger one to make it go up & down with the lever.

Pity that link to the diagrams on the coupe forum went south recently......
If you want anything tracing out on my car, let me know.

Is there a municipal dump in Millau? I'll need to loose the old seats somehow.

Well....

It's still a 13-hour drive to Millau, I've already stuffed it into Google maps and you should see the amount of toll roads

If you have infinite patience, viamichelin lets you price any section of peage so you can work out which ones are worth paying for - we tend to use the alternatives where possible, often just as quick.

[steve_earwig]

Pity that link to the diagrams on the coupe forum went south recently......

There was a link to wiring diagrams? I know the parts diagrams went (I'm the one that told them about it) but there's a link to a Dutch site with them now. I've been investigating in Service Pox and it seems to be the seats are more-or-less the same lhd-rhd. Just the uppy-downy on the driver's.

If you want anything tracing out on my car, let me know.

Wiring diagram would be nice How about just a reason why there's so many damn connectors, the only thing I can think of is for a memory function 'cos I know the ecu's under the seat on the floor...

Well....

Must remember to bring a blindfold for the wife if she's coming... I can imagine the French would be well impressed if I stopped on that and started pitching seats off it...

Off to investigate Viamichelin...

[stealthe]

Yes there is a dump nearby. The motors are removable allowing the linkage to be wound manually, so you don't need power immediately. The wiring on the left hand seat is far simpler than the right as it doesn't have the memory function. If you lose the memory function from the right hand seat then you should be able to copy the loom from the left. In the posted pic I believe that the plugs are, left to right, airbag/pre-tensioner, power/earth for motors, heated seat, motor controls and seat controller/memory. On the left hand seat the orange plug just loops back onto the seat, there is no white plug.
Both seats have four motors, so I guess they both have the same adjustment. Fore/aft, backrest angle, height and tilt.

The place in france is actually a farm a few km beyond Millau, with a kind of self contained annex that should be available (need to check) and a couple of open barns to work in.
I need to check the schedule for the shipping to france, may have just missed one. There would be about a three week window once they arrive in france that I could guarantee some one around to help.

stealthe

[waue1978]

I think Steve could be a prime candidate for the idea myself & Elliot discussed about the LHD cars & memory seats here.

As your car is a LHD it just means you'll end up with the ECU (& extra wiring work) on the passenger side rather than the drivers, but according to the coupe crowd, the passenger seat just needs a simple +ve & -ve feed. This gave me cause to theorize that if you were to get a passenger seat from a LHD car (which would be a drivers seat here) you would only need to send a +ve & -ve feed to each seat.

As far as the wiring goes though, my intention was to use the passenger seat as a pattern to figure out the wiring on the drivers seat as all you really need to do is remove the ECU from the equation.

[steve_earwig]

The seat bases seem to be different RHD-LHD but I'm not sure just what the differences are, the motor packs seem to be the same, at least the same part number is fitted to the driver's seat on both and there's only one ecu. Presumably the white plug is how the ecu knows what position the seat is actually in so there must be contacts or something on the base. I think you'll probably find that without the ecu one seat will be the same as the other, just the position sensors will be redundant. Of course I'm just guessing here, I could be completely wrong

[plod]

I can confirm the passenger seat only needs a+ve and -ve

When I first got my leathers, we bolted the rears in in about 30mins, and then fitted the passenger one, and connected a battery to the seat and powered the passenger one into position.

I have the seat ecu and wiring kit off ade on the coupe club, but you still don't get the memory, so no real benefit in using it, if you can do as already suggested and copy the passenger wiring set up to the drivers seat.

[wasp]

hi
im after the two front door wiring looms from an exec ?
thanks

[martinallen9]

do you still have the com 2000 unit if so how much pm me please

[stealthe]

I think Steve could be a prime candidate for the idea myself & Elliot discussed about the LHD cars & memory seats here.

As your car is a LHD it just means you'll end up with the ECU (& extra wiring work) on the passenger side rather than the drivers, but according to the coupe crowd, the passenger seat just needs a simple +ve & -ve feed. This gave me cause to theorize that if you were to get a passenger seat from a LHD car (which would be a drivers seat here) you would only need to send a +ve & -ve feed to each seat.

As far as the wiring goes though, my intention was to use the passenger seat as a pattern to figure out the wiring on the drivers seat as all you really need to do is remove the ECU from the equation.

I'm currently toying with this idea in reverse, swapping the wiring on a standard drivers seat with the wiring from the leather, memory seat in my Exec, giving me a cloth interior with memory in my Exec and a set of leather seats pre-wired with standard electrics to sell.

stealthe

[RayneR]

Hi stealthe ! does your Instrument panel has the oil temp and the silver surrounding the clocks ? How much miles ( in km ) have ? I have read that if the instrument panel have more miles then the BSI the miles on the instrument panel will take control or it will duplicate something like this .. i'm a bit sceptical regarding changing this .. i would love to have this instrument panel..

[stealthe]

Hi, I have the inst. panel from the '52 Exec (157000 miles) and soon from the 2000 GTX (300000+ miles). Both have oil temp. but no silver surround.
I was under the impression that the BSI miles and the inst. miles were added if you change the clocks?

stealthe