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Hi all,

Looking at my 293000 mile 2.0 HDI 1999 406, the engine still pulls like a train :cheesy: but the paint work is looking somewhat perished :cry: .... clear lacquer is pealing and got a bit of rust.

I was thinking about spraying painting (with rattel cans :shock: ) my car MAT black .... Has anyone else done this?? If so got any pics and how do you think you go about changing the colour on my V5??

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Holy sh*t that's real lunar mileage! :shock: And they say French cars are unreliable.

I wouldn't recommend using rattle cans. It's cheap - but unless you're REALLY good at applying a very even amount of paint over the whole car, it'll look crap.

Full-body resprays are for professional bodyshops. Be prepared to pay a lot of money for the work.

Incidentally, with that level of mileage - when were the timing belt and water pump last changed?
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Yeah man the mileage is a bit stellar really, but it’s still a great car underneath the paint :cheesy: !! Lol

I have a receipt for it having a cam belt and water pump at about 240k so will have to be looking at one soon as I think it’s about every 60k. Belts still looks pretty new, still has the writing!! Pmsl.

Well I think that the rattle can idea is better than it looks now and I haven’t got the money for a full re-spray .... dose anyone have the money for a full re-spray these days :roll: !! lol
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A lad I know did his Focus matt black with rattle cans, the rat look etc, and tbh I thought it looked ok, his prep work lacked a bit in places so if you prep the car well enough I would of thought it would'nt look to bad

The kids in his street thought so aswell, as they turned the car into a 4 wheeled chalkboard
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If you have the lacquer peeling on individual panels like doors, wings, boot, or bonnet, these can all (potentially) be reasonably easily swapped out for ones you might find in a scrappy. If its the rear quarter-panels or roof, then it's a bit more difficult

There's no doubt you've got a good car there; it's a shame the paint is letting it down. Truth be told, with mileage like that, you'll probably find it cheaper to replace the car than to sort the paint out properly :(

You could always befriend someone who works in a paint shop and see if he/she'll give you a sizeable discount.

Seriously, that's (very respectably) high mileage, and I need to throw the question out there to the other group members: does anyone else's car have more miles on their clock than this?
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do not spray it matt black. especially with cans :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

i wouldnt worry about the laquer and rust spots. you have almost 300k miles on the clock. your alowd to have a few rust spost with that milage :mrgreen:
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There is a cheap Alternative to spraying a car ,
but you need a compressor and somewhere you can use it where people carnt complain /moan,
you can spray a car for under £20
rattle cans wouid cost you most probs £80 £90 to spray a whole car and itd take hours :(
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as lozz said a compressor can be used to spray paint.
They are good i did an old transit, but dust becomes the issue with paint, thats why you need to take it to a bodyshop them ovens they have do not contain dust (or at least they shouldnt) because dust is the enemy of a good paint finish.
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FarmerPug wrote:as lozz said a compressor can be used to spray paint.
They are good i did an old transit, but dust becomes the issue with paint, thats why you need to take it to a bodyshop them ovens they have do not contain dust (or at least they shouldnt) because dust is the enemy of a good paint finish.
Depends on what paints used.
Metalics need a spray booth preflably,

if the car is rough looking there is cheap methods to tidy up amotor,
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Surely if you're painting the car matt black, then dust ain't that big an issue as surely it won't show up like a gloss finish :?:

I ain't a fan of the matt finish, except on a 50's car, but hey, if that's what you want, then go for it
If you are going to do it with piss cans, then go to a paint supplier, and get them to supply them
Should work out like cheaper than Halfrauds
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Thanks for the comments guys,

I will post some pics up soon when I get a chance of the affected areas but to list a few

• Bonnet
• Front wings
• A pillar
• Around petrol cap

I’d love to get a compressor so I can do it properly, I love this car it’s just the paint that makes it look tatty but I can’t justify a respray in a body shop :( .

Is there any other options apart from getting a compressor and rattle cans :wink: ?
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Paint brushes & rollers?
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I have actually seen that on a old fiesta .... has a unique finish!! PMSL :P
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mattyf wrote:Thanks for the comments guys,

I will post some pics up soon when I get a chance of the affected areas but to list a few

• Bonnet
• Front wings
• A pillar
• Around petrol cap

I’d love to get a compressor so I can do it properly, I love this car it’s just the paint that makes it look tatty but I can’t justify a respray in a body shop :( .

Is there any other options apart from getting a compressor and rattle cans :wink: ?
Yeah theres a cheap option that doesnt require a compressor but you need to take your time doing it
theres also some videos on this method on you tube,

what you need is :
a couple of Gloss/radiator rollers not the fluffy ones the smooth ones ,
a couple of trays,
sandpaper.
£2 worth of petrol
1 tin of gloss (chosen colour) that can be thined down,
thin the paint down with petrol and roll it on ,

the petrol is used to thin the paint and makes the paint dry quickly,


sounds stupid but it works and it leaves no marks ,

you can also just use meths instead of petrol,

it doent look to bad done this way and itl cost under £20 :roll:
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