can I put all automatic ?

[APR]

Can I put this all automatic ? is just change the manual switches ?

[RayneR]

what do you mean for making them automatic ? Like moving up and down automatically ?

[steve_earwig]

Presumably "one-hit" or "one-touch" or sequential as Pug would have it. I can't see it in the pic but I presume the driver's window switch has an "A" in it (for automatic I guess).

The trouble is the driver's door motor is different to the others, the automatic stuff is built into it, plus the switch is different obviously, so there's not much chance of doing it with standard parts. Even if you got the right-hand motor out of a right-hand drive car you'd have to rewire it and find another way of switching it. As for the rears, forget it.

I suppose you could put a timer circuit on all the doors but I think you might have 3 windows that are either open or shut but nothing in between.

Off to see if any other PSA car used the same stuff...

[Captain Jack]

ff to see if any other PSA car used the same stuff...

You have too much time on your hands, Steve.

[steve_earwig]

Possibly, I was in the garden at 8.30, I built a frame for the cukes and did a fair bit of raking but I thought perhaps I shouldn't overdo it.

There's no common parts However a lot of the motors look the same, just the cables and the bars look different. Also the Xantia switches look the same but they aren't. The Xantia appears to have a proper control box (rather than just a relay) on the diver's door window but I'm not sure how the switch works, the switch has an A on it but it seems to just be a 2-way contact switch - both are earthed until the switch is pressed one way or the other to give a live, and the motor itself just appears to be a simple motor with no electronics. It's a very long time since I drove one so I don't know how they work - anyone got any idea if they're just a two position switch or do you push them further for the one-touch?

Also, I've been looking at the 607 switch panel, that looks soooo familiar Trouble is the connector on the back of it is 26 way, rather than the 406's 16 way.

Oh to live in the UK and have access to breaker's yards

[Captain Jack]

Nice and sunny here! Come to England!

Although I am sure it's much sunnier over on the continent...

[steve_earwig]

I think the weather's about the same just now. I am coming to England in a couple of weeks but I won't have time for any breaker's yard fun, and I reckon at the start of May the weather I'll be coming back to will feel like stepping into an oven. Hence getting the garden sorted now, rather than when it's been baked into bricks and I need a jackhammer to plant anything.

[APR]

Possibly, I was in the garden at 8.30, I built a frame for the cukes and did a fair bit of raking but I thought perhaps I shouldn't overdo it.

There's no common parts However a lot of the motors look the same, just the cables and the bars look different. Also the Xantia switches look the same but they aren't. The Xantia appears to have a proper control box (rather than just a relay) on the diver's door window but I'm not sure how the switch works, the switch has an A on it but it seems to just be a 2-way contact switch - both are earthed until the switch is pressed one way or the other to give a live, and the motor itself just appears to be a simple motor with no electronics. It's a very long time since I drove one so I don't know how they work - anyone got any idea if they're just a two position switch or do you push them further for the one-touch?

Also, I've been looking at the 607 switch panel, that looks soooo familiar Trouble is the connector on the back of it is 26 way, rather than the 406's 16 way.

Oh to live in the UK and have access to breaker's yards

If i press soft ( 1st click ) they up or down while I press, if I press more strong (2nd click) they up or down automaticly

[APR]

Presumably "one-hit" or "one-touch" or sequential as Pug would have it. I can't see it in the pic but I presume the driver's window switch has an "A" in it (for automatic I guess).

The trouble is the driver's door motor is different to the others, the automatic stuff is built into it, plus the switch is different obviously, so there's not much chance of doing it with standard parts. Even if you got the right-hand motor out of a right-hand drive car you'd have to rewire it and find another way of switching it. As for the rears, forget it.

I suppose you could put a timer circuit on all the doors but I think you might have 3 windows that are either open or shut but nothing in between.

Off to see if any other PSA car used the same stuff...

If i press soft ( 1st click ) they up or down while I press, if I press more strong (2nd click) they up or down automaticly

[lozz]

iunderstand what you are asking,

you mean 1 touch windows,
strangely mine dont do this either ive been looking into it to see what enables it,

hopefully someone will come along with an answer for this,

edit: steve as already answerd this in the above posts,

[FarmerPug]

i asked about this a while ago, the construction of the drivers switch is much different than the others, and the motor is definatley different.
The 607 has one touch all round

[APR]

i asked about this a while ago, the construction of the drivers switch is much different than the others, and the motor is definatley different.
The 607 has one touch all round

Yes but, is possible to just change that switches ? the manual switches to automatic switches, and the respecive motors

[DiscoPol]

Yes but, is possible to just change that switches ? the manual switches to automatic switches, and the respecive motors

thats quite a big just your asking, for the fronts it would be easier, but not easy, for the rears, not a chance.


Good luck though if you do attempt it

[steve_earwig]

If i press soft ( 1st click ) they up or down while I press, if I press more strong (2nd click) they up or down automaticly

Is this for a Xantia?

I'm looking at the wiring diagrams (again ), the 406 driver's window switch has 6 contacts in it (two normal and 2 automatic), whereas the Xantia only has 4, so I'm thinking that perhaps it depends on the duration of the press (I think Vauxhalls are like this) - short press all the way, long press to where you release the button. I know we have some (ex)Xantia owners on here, any comments fellers?

Btw you forgot something - along with changing the switches and the motors you'll also have to change some wiring.

Btw CJ, I just painted the gate, is that ok with you?

[APR]

If i press soft ( 1st click ) they up or down while I press, if I press more strong (2nd click) they up or down automaticly

Is this for a Xantia?

I'm looking at the wiring diagrams (again ), the 406 driver's window switch has 6 contacts in it (two normal and 2 automatic), whereas the Xantia only has 4, so I'm thinking that perhaps it depends on the duration of the press (I think Vauxhalls are like this) - short press all the way, long press to where you release the button. I know we have some (ex)Xantia owners on here, any comments fellers?

Btw you forgot something - along with changing the switches and the motors you'll also have to change some wiring.

Btw CJ, I just painted the gate, is that ok with you?

no my car is 406, I'l investigate that