D9 Pre-wired Extras - or lack of...

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Had a bit of time to do some investigating today so thought I'd try to find the cruise control wiring first. Dropped the steering column cover off & had a look - nothing there. No spare white plugs anywhere.

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In fact the only spare plug I could find is a mysterious little red plug which is arrowed in the first pic & the arrow in the following pic shows where it was hidden.

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Also thought I'd check behind the headlamp adjuster/diagnostic port as the on/off switch for the cruise control is located here so thought I may find a spare wire for that. Nothing again.

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So, with the cruise control seeming like a bit of a dead end, I thought I'd briefly look into a possible cause of my non-working door lights - the BSI. A couple of people suggested that I may be missing a fuse from it. Well here it is with a full row of 6 working fuses:

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Also thought I'd try popping a fuse into the several empty slots on the fuse box to see if they suddenly kicked in. As you can see there are a few empty slots - some with the metal contacts in & some were just empty holes:

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Again, nothing. So after a couple of hours of faffing about whilst waiting for coats of paint to dry I've found nothing but a mysterious red plug hidden behind my steering column, still have no door lights & come to the conclusion that my car is actually wired for f**k all.

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Red plug could be for the stereo stalk if you've not got one fitted?
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Nope - stereo stalk is a brown one & it's not tucked away. In fact the stereo stalk is the brown plug shown here attached to my stalk adaptor. The other end of it is in clear view (although not in the pic) attached to the steering column.

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Had another look today following receipt of a photo from Wasp showing where the plug for his was - now 99.9% sure my car wasn't wired up for cruise control. Have even taken photos from every possible view of the wiring behind the drivers side & can't find any spare plugs apart from that mysterious red one which I've now managed to free up a bit. It's actually an offshoot from a larger bunch of wiring with an orange & grey wire going to the red plug & a thicker bunch of wires plugged into something which is mounted behind the steering column that I felt.

Bearing this lack of wiring in mind, I thought I'd investigate something else. Over the past few days quite a few people have stated that D9s are pre-wired for heated seats too. Not calling this a lie as the people that have said this have actually popped out the coin slots & found the wiring there, but it certainly can't be applied to all D9s as when I popped my coin slots out I found no wiring there for heated seats either. Again, I took pics which I'll upload tomorrow, but all I could find under there was a large chunk plugged into the airbag ECU & a couple of smaller looms coming out from under the carpet & heading to the rear of the handbrake lever & the other towards the gearstick.

It would seem from this evidence that D9s aren't all pre-wired for everything. I'd also hazard a guess that my door card lights aren't working because the car isn't wired for them. Perhaps Peugeot used a standardised door loom when they started fitting electric windows all round in all models, but didn't fit all the wiring into the shell?
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argh so the white conector is cruise control?
iwas wondering what it was for mines got it,

inoticed it behind some wires,
iwonder why my lx has got this then ?

seems to have loads of plugs in other places too with nothing connected :?
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what do the door lights plug into and the ones in the floor wells?
im thinking of adding these to mine but icarnt see where they wouid plug into

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It may be that they could use ANY loom for lower spec cars, but had to have the right one for the fully loaded versions. (Might explain why some of you have all the plugs & others don't ) :?
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IM sure imoved some wires out of the way to find /stumble on the white plug,
ifound it by accident as iwas was looking at the wiring that comes out of the ign barrel that goes to fuse box
the wires that power up the heater blower,
iwas wiggling thems about and moving wires out of the way thats how ifound it itwasnt in clear view,

iwill take the cover off tomoz and get a pic of the white plug up .
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lozz wrote:IM sure imoved some wires out of the way to find /stumble on the white plug,
ifound it by accident as iwas was looking at the wiring that comes out of the ign barrel that goes to fuse box
the wires that power up the heater blower,
iwas wiggling thems about and moving wires out of the way thats how ifound it itwasnt in clear view,

iwill take the cover off tomoz and get a pic of the white plug up .

yeah, i'll have to do more digging into mine too ...please post pics of yours . See you later.
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As promised earlier, here are the better pics.

Here are the pics that Wasp sent showing where his plug was located:

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Here is a shot of mine from a similar angle showing the lack of the white plug:

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Here are a couple of slightly better shots of that mystery red plug (which nobody seems to know anything about judging by the lack of feedback on it):

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While I had the small screwdriver out, I popped the side panel off the dash to get a different view - still no sign of any spare plus, also bearing in mind that the on/off button for the cruise is located just below this point so there would also need to be some spare wiring here (which there doesn't appear to be):

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Here are the pics of underneath the coin slots in the centre console - also no sign of any extra wiring or plugs for the heated seats:

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the white plug is behind of some wires on mine at the side of a brown plug

see pic ive put a rough arrow in the location,

you have to look at a side view to see it once your in the car if your directly in front of it -its hard to see because of all the wires
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check it again mate
the wires may be hiding it mine where hidden by the wires,

thats the only white plug on mine so if its not cruise control idont know what it is :?
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If the arrow is the big red smear on the left, that's the place Wasp showed on his pic, but on mine - even behind the wires - there is nothing. Just that red plug which is even further back, almost above the steering column itself.
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That brown plug you mention Lozz, is where the radio stalk is plugged in. If you ever buy an aftermarket stereo adaptor, that's where it has to go.
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waue1978 wrote:That brown plug you mention Lozz, is where the radio stalk is plugged in. If you ever buy an aftermarket stereo adaptor, that's where it has to go.
ok mate,
on mine its more or less at the side of that brown stalk conector the plug isnt loose its all held in place by a plastic bracket,
mines abit older than yours so may be they cut back on adding some conection points :(
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