Badge Engineering

[sirwiggum]

Some good selections there FarmerPug

On the theme of Americans:

A Ford Granada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkur_Scorpio

A Sierra XR4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkur_XR4Ti

[FarmerPug]

The americans got superbly lazy didnt they.
james may didnt like this saab:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_BLS
why you would buy this as opposed to an a4 i dont know:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_Exeo

one of the best but yet worst examples of badge engineering, but not total badge engineering.
An 80s japanese body, 80s italian build quality:
the alfa arna:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Arna

[plod]

Them Merkur XR4Ti's are rare as rocking horse sh*t

I did a few shows when I had my XR4x4 and never did see one

Think i'd rather of had the XR8 though


Talking of V8's, I still regret putting the Astra 16v engine in my Opel Manta, and not going for the Rover V8 conversion instead

I thought I was digressing slightly, but guess i've brought it back round
Vauxhall Cavalier coupe - Opel Manta coupe

[sirwiggum]

Didn't realise Cadillac BLSs were rehashed Saabs.

Though they did it before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Catera

Plod - Sounds like you had an interesting car history

Was there not someone in BTCC drove a Merkur?

Now that I am a Honda fanboy, a Rover with a Peugeot diesel engine badged as a Honda Concerto diesel

[plod]

Was there not someone in BTCC drove a Merkur?

Yes, Andy Rouse, he won the championship in 85, and was class A champion in 86 with the XR4Ti

[plod]

Found a vid as well
Looks rather rapid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMuwiR3-EtY

[FarmerPug]

did the toyota corolla ever get the xud?

[sirwiggum]

Don't think it did.

Toyota were linked to GM at one point, so they may have gotten a Vauxhall/Opel/Izuzu diesel engine.

Rover used XUDs and Honda were tied to Rover for a while so used them too. XUDs were fantastic engines.

[FarmerPug]

I seen a 1.9 diesel toyota corolla, ive heard rumours of peugeot putting an engine in it, and although i didnt see under the bonnet, the sound of the engine was very xudish.

[sirwiggum]

One of the neighbours has a Corolla, is badged on the wing as a 1.9D like the ZX used to be.

Someone on the internet wrote:

The only time Toyota installed a PSA engine was the 1.9XUD which went out in the Corolla sold up to the end of 2001.

Looks like you right farmerpug

[FarmerPug]

my dad had a corolla diesel about that age and it gave a lot of problems, although it didnt sound like an xud.

[plod]

I've just been doing a bit of searching and can't find any reference to the toyota using the XUD, but maybe it was

I did see this list of XUD powered cars

* Auverland A3
* Citroën BX
* Citroën Visa
* Citroën C15
* Citroën ZX
* Citroën Xsara
* Citroën Berlingo
* Citroën Xantia
* Citroën XM
* Eurovan (PSA/Fiat joint venture) (Citroën Evasion/Synergie/C8, Fiat Ulysse, Peugeot 806/807, Lancia Zeta/Phedra)
* FSO Polonez/Caro
* Honda Concerto
* Lada Niva
* LDV 200
* Peugeot 205
* Peugeot 305
* Peugeot 306
* Peugeot 309
* Peugeot 405
* Peugeot 406
* Peugeot 605
* Peugeot Expert van
* Peugeot Partner
* Suzuki Baleno
* Suzuki Vitara
* Talbot Horizon
* Rover 200
* Rover 400

[FarmerPug]

I checked wikipedia yes but its not always right, they left out the suzuki samurai for example some got an xud.

[plod]

I agree
I just found out it was ised in the Fiat Tipo, and that's not on that list

[plod]

oops