Tyres

Post by **DaiRees** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:19 pm

Soooooo, she was shod with Pirelli P6000 when new, and they were replaced with Pirelli P6000 at the first change. Now she needs a full new set of boots again but I don't know what to get. I've been really happy with the performance of the Pirellis both in the wet and dry, and they're reasonably priced. They last about 16000 miles and all wear out together.

So the question is, can I get the same or better grip and ride and either, longer life (for the same price) or same life for cheaper?

What do you lot reccommend?

turbolag · Post by **turbolag** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:59 pm

406's are really sensitive to tyre choice. The OE michelins on mine were awful, made from the finest bakelite, but a change to dunlop SP sports was not only cheaper, but tighened up the feel of the steering nicely. Steer well clear of Nang Tang Hokums or other cheap pap on a 406, as it will have a radical effect on the steering behavior.

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:23 pm

Firestones on mine seem OK

Post by **Welly** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:45 am

If you read the stats on ''www.mytres'' the Pirelli p6000 don't rate very well.

If you can have Toyos T1-R's (they only tend to do 'sport' sizes in them) then definately go for these as if you check around they have a very good write up.

If you can't have these, then have a good read around mytres, the Vredestein ones have a very good test result.

The pirelli's don't tend to score well in the wet, and coming from Wales you might want to think about this!!!!!

Nice to hear from you by the way

turbolag · Post by **turbolag** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:52 pm

Welton wrote:The pirelli's don't tend to score well in the wet, and coming from Wales you might want to think about this!!!!!

why's that? Do the have sheep avoidance issues, or is their grip affected by close harmony choral singing?

Post by **DaiRees** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:34 pm

Welton wrote: Nice to hear from you by the way

Cheers Welts, I'm still about, just don't find myself with too much to say these days

The P6000s are great in the wet, that's one of the things I like about them. Actually looking at mytyres the newer P6 is only a quid more and seems to score much better than the P6000, so I'll probably give them a go.

The other thing is (being the tight arsed picky bar steward that I am) I always try to avoid directional or asymetric tyres. Why? Because I like the odd roundabout or two, so I need tyres that I can swap left to right without having to pay to get them turned on the rims and re-balanced. Otherwise left rear would need changing twice as often as the rest

On a completely different note the Front brake pad warning light is on, so yesterday I nipped into the Pug garage to get a new set of pads.....£47!!!!!!

I'm sure I changed the pads AND discs on my old mundano for less than that!!

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:46 pm

Give a few local motor factors a ring. Think I got my pads for under £20 by avoiding the dealer

Malachy · Post by **Malachy** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:09 pm

DaiRees wrote:
The P6000s are great in the wet, that's one of the things I like about them. Actually looking at mytyres the newer P6 is only a quid more and seems to score much better than the P6000, so I'll probably give them a go.

im amazed you find p6000's great in the wet everyone i have spoke to and every review i have seen say they suck they have be branded as "ditch finders" due to this characteristic. try some different tyres im sure youll be amazed at how much more wet grip is availible to you.
toyo proxes (t1-s or t1-r) are great as are eagle f1's
both also have excellent dry and wet handling with the f1's slightly better in the wet.
i have also changed recently to avon zz3's on mine and they seem to offer good performance but not as good as my old toyo's
kumho ecstas are also a good range of cheaper tyres that have been shining through and actually perform quite well.
its your money and your choice but i would only put p6000's on someones car if i reallly reallllly hated them

almost as dead cert as arsnic in ya tea

Post by **DaiRees** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:53 pm

Hmmm interesting... but I can't find toyo proxes t1-r or t1-s in my size (standard 195/65/R15 91H), as welts said looks like they only do "sporty" sizes. What about proxes CF 1? I like the look of them, they're really cheap!!

Any other recommendations?

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:03 pm

YOu'll know my answer butt, up the meanie's £55 for a no make.

Allthough last time I went there, he hasn't got the balancing machine adaptor that you need for the coupe's wheels (no removable centre cap), but it was on before he saw this. I was expecting to take it somewhere else for balancing, but took it up to well over the limit, and it was spot on with no weights at all. Bonus.

Post by **DaiRees** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:57 pm

£55!!! I'm not paying that!!!

Seriously though, I'll be shopping from the £35 to £45 range on mytyres. I got a bloke promising to fit & balance them for £5 a corner so that ain't bad. I haven't ordered them yet though 'cos the wife's car must come first, her MOT is due soon

. Don't like this running multiple vehicles, we need 7 tyres between the 2 cars

! Expensive month!

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:49 pm

Got it wrong, £55 was for Deb's car, £50 for the coupe.

Incidentally, talking about the coupe, I've still got this effing Mondeo. Into the 5th week now, should get the coupe back Monday or Tuesday. Over two grand of Mondeo hire fees now.....