thinking about getting heated front seats 406 D9

[OdinEidolon]

I thought the reason it wouldn't work was something to do with connections to the electric mirrors.

I just asked Ade. The mirrors are not the main part, the important part for me is the seats control, does the ECU not work if it sensed the mirrors are not connected? French electrics...

[OdinEidolon]

[quote=Ade1122]The problem with the memory function is that the loom is integral into the main wiring loom of the car and the ecu is programmed to move the door mirrors also..For example there are 16 wires to the mirrors on an se,just 5 on an se.[/quote]

So the problem is only about the mirrors... I don't quite get why it should not work with seats only, but I understand that if you want to make it work with mirrors too you'll have to change the whole door wiring loom.

[steve_earwig]

As well as the mirrors and possibly the switch (can't be bothered to look it up). Is that it? Pffft, I'm sure you'll cope

[OdinEidolon]

As well as the mirrors and possibly the switch (can't be bothered to look it up). Is that it? Pffft, I'm sure you'll cope

Yeah, easy
I just have a ton of things to do first on the car:
- fix injectors
- fix boot water entrance
- remap and defap
- buy good winter tyres
- stop the rearviem mirror from vibrating too much
- complete check at Peugeot's, filters, oils etc
- fit led lights n the bonnet and in the boot
- fix the bodywork, its very bad right now
- fit a strut brace (do I need to lift the car?)
- update BSI
- search for decent leather seats

then if I have some time and the car is still aliv after that I'll look into it

[highlander]

- fit a strut brace (do I need to lift the car?)

Nope! This one was so simple to do, even I did it and didn't f*ck it up

You need a socket set with the right size torx bit.

1) Get the car on a flat, level surface, and park it up (handbrake on, in gear)
2) Pop the bonnet
3) Undo the three bolts on top of each of the suspension struts
4) Put the brace in place over the holes
5) Put the bolts back in, and tighten them up (evenly - you don't need a torque wrench for this, as long as you tighten them all roughly the same)

Job done. Some people say you need longer bolts, but I just used the bolts that came in the car (both of 'em, actually, Saloon and Coupe).

You may need to "persuade" the strut brace to fit under your bonnet - this can be done using a hammer and some brute force. I didn't have to do this on the Saloon, it fit just fine - but then, I bought mine from someone who'd already had it in his saloon before it was written off.

Hope this helps.

[steve_earwig]

Edit: just don't jack the front up with all the bolts out

I just have a ton of things to do first on the car:
- fix injectors - fix or replace?
- fix boot water entrance - out with the talcum powder...
- remap and defap - go for it!
- buy good winter tyres -
Cheap but good - Sava Eskimos (I've had these on both estates, my first winter tyre and they were amazing)
Everyone's favourite here - Nokian WR (everyone says they're great but I've yet to see any fitted )
Expensive but score high on ADAC - Dunlop Sp Winter Sport
You might want to drop to 195/65 R 15T and save a lot of money
- stop the rearviem mirror from vibrating too much - mine does that, it's heavy with all the electronics I guess
- complete check at Peugeot's, filters, oils etc - at Peugeot's? You have too much money!!!
- fit led lights n the bonnet and in the boot - sorry?
- fix the bodywork, its very bad right now - tut tut
- fit a strut brace (do I need to lift the car?) - nope
- update BSI - to what?
- search for decent leather seats - btw electric seats are the same RHD & LHD but there's no point in having the memory on the passenger side....

then if I have some time and the car is still aliv after that I'll look into it

[OdinEidolon]

Thanks Highlander for the hints. I'll do what you said and then go to the mechanic and borrow his torque wrench for a second - just to be sure. Know the torque number?
[OT]When will all the attacks at the wiki stop HL?[/OT]

Edit: just don't jack the front up with all the bolts out

I just have a ton of things to do first on the car:
- fix injectors - fix or replace? We'll see when I do some tests. Dogslife was so kind he gave me two of his old injectors, I may just pop the dirty one out and the clean one in.
- fix boot water entrance - out with the talcum powder...
- remap and defap - go for it! can't wait!
- buy good winter tyres -
Cheap but good - Sava Eskimos (I've had these on both estates, my first winter tyre and they were amazing)
Everyone's favourite here - Nokian WR (everyone says they're great but I've yet to see any fitted )
Expensive but score high on ADAC - Dunlop Sp Winter Sport
You might want to drop to 195/65 R 15T and save a lot of money I can only use 205/55/R16 or 205/55/R15 by law. I'm using the first for winter tyres, the latter isn't common enough to find decent prices. Not yet decided on which - thinking of Michelin's PilotAlpin3
- stop the rearviem mirror from vibrating too much - mine does that, it's heavy with all the electronics I guess I'll try to fit some rubber, it's the mirror vibrating, not the support, so it hould be fixable
- complete check at Peugeot's, filters, oils etc - at Peugeot's? You have too much money!!! I wish. I'm a student with a baby, I don't have any money to waste. I only want it to make one and only one service at Peugeot's in it's life with me (bought it 5k miles ago). By the way I already have the filters, oil etc so they just need to test the car and put the stuff in, no way the gonna make me spend 30£ for an air filter!
- fit led lights n the bonnet and in the boot - sorry? Yeah, you know, it's dark there
- fix the bodywork, its very bad right now - tut tut I know, I know... the right side front door paint has cracks in it. I guess the car has got some incident in the past (as someone else made me notice in the water-in-boot thread)
- fit a strut brace (do I need to lift the car?) - nope
- update BSI - to what? Well not update, just mess with the options a bit... deactivate key-in beep and activate windows after poweroff
- search for decent leather seats - btw electric seats are the same RHD & LHD but there's no point in having the memory on the passenger side.... yeah still a leather set from UK is too expensive for my tastes...

then if I have some time and the car is still aliv after that I'll look into it

EDIT:
I mean: - fit led lights In the bonnet and in the boot
not fitting the bonnet in the boot

[highlander]

Thanks Highlander for the hints. I'll do what you said and then go to the mechanic and borrow his torque wrench for a second - just to be sure. Know the torque number?

Not a clue, sorry. Someone with Autodata access (Jasper?) could hopefully tell you - should be shown on the diagram for the V6 Coupe, as it was factory-fitted to that model.

[OT]When will all the attacks at the wiki stop HL?[/OT]

I noticed the spam, and contacted Nutski to let him know. He removed all the spam that I could see.

[steve_earwig]

Haynes says 40Nm/30lbf ft but that's without the monkey bar. As someone else had problems with threads stripping perhaps less than that with some thread lock?

Don't go to Peugeot, they will find a whole host of things on your car which aren't quite perfect, change them and charge you a small fortune (I have a spare t-shirt if you need it )

I've no idea how the law stands here re. smaller size tyre but, as some 406s (eg my 2.1 D8) came with 195/65 R15s I can't see the problem. Also the speed rating might be an issue, being T means I can't drive over 190kph on them. In winter. They'd have to be seriously bored.

I'd forgot the Alpins, I did see them doing well in some tests I was looking at and were on my list (hold on, why did I delete that spreadsheet? ). While I'm thinking about it, the problem with some of the ADAC tests is they drive the tyres well past their capabilities and see how long they last, which might not be the best way to do it. Savas for me next month anyway, it's all I can afford

[OdinEidolon]

Haynes says 40Nm/30lbf ft but that's without the monkey bar. As someone else had problems with threads stripping perhaps less than that with some thread lock?

Don't go to Peugeot, they will find a whole host of things on your car which aren't quite perfect, change them and charge you a small fortune (I have a spare t-shirt if you need it )

I've no idea how the law stands here re. smaller size tyre but, as some 406s (eg my 2.1 D8) came with 195/65 R15s I can't see the problem. Also the speed rating might be an issue, being T means I can't drive over 190kph on them. In winter. They'd have to be seriously bored.

I'd forgot the Alpins, I did see them doing well in some tests I was looking at and were on my list (hold on, why did I delete that spreadsheet? ). While I'm thinking about it, the problem with some of the ADAC tests is they drive the tyres well past their capabilities and see how long they last, which might not be the best way to do it. Savas for me next month anyway, it's all I can afford

Thanks for the info. The law's pretty strict, if they stop me with tyres not written on the car databook they can take my car away. Winter tyres can have a lower speed rating than normal tyres here - so if you'r allowed rating V, you can use H.
I've been to the local Peugeot's often due to my dad having a C3 in the past, they are good guys, and I can see if they are trying to **** me. If there's something wrong with the car and I don't notice it, it means it can remain unfixed until I start noticing it while I drive!

[steve_earwig]

That's a bit crap

I've just been to see my mate who runs the car service and asked him if the Croatian law has anything to say - he said whatever's written in the car book Pull car book out of my pocket, down the bottom "Additional tyres - 195/65R 91T". Oh, errr, ok It doesn't say anything about them being winter tyres either...

[OdinEidolon]

That's a bit crap

I've just been to see my mate who runs the car service and asked him if the Croatian law has anything to say - he said whatever's written in the car book Pull car book out of my pocket, down the bottom "Additional tyres - 195/65R 91T". Oh, errr, ok It doesn't say anything about them being winter tyres either...

Yeah it sucks, you'll find hard to believe that most coupés here can only use 15" rims! Some use 16" (V6s), but that's it.
It's the same in Italy, one type of tyre is written on the car book. Then the car can (but not all of them do, mine is an exception between 406s) use additional tyres (one or more) written at the end of the book.