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OBD/Diagnostic socket

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Hi

As a newbie in the club, first I'd like to say hi everyone!

If I may, I have a number of questions about my 406.......

1. I have a fault code reader but could anyone tell me where the socket is and if my 16 pin plug will fit (my car is a 1999 "V" reg)?

2. My car is a GLX and it looks like it should have a trip computer but the wiper swith top doesn't work it (has it been replaced or does my model not have the trip function)?

I have had this car for a good 3 years and apart from it needing a new engine when the Cambelt went (15 months to the day that a Pug dealer fitted it!) it has been a great car, reliable, comfortable and quiet.

I'd appreciate any advice that anyone may have, many thanks in advance.

David
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Re: OBD/Diagnostic socket

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The socket is behind the longer blanking plate to the right of headlight height adjusting switch, it is 16-pin.

Don't know on GLX spec. - all models tended to get more goodies as time went on, but someone will probably be along to tell you shortly.
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Hi

Thanks for the info on the socket - it is rather well hidden, but at least I know where it is now - i'd never have looked there!! :oops:
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Mine was in by the fuses - drop the cover to access the fuses, and there it is

Has the stalk got two arrows that look like a ffwd/rev symbol on a stereo on it??
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Re: OBD/Diagnostic socket

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Hi

Yes - thanks for your reply - I have a stalk as you describe for the stereo, though it does not do anything with the MFD (other than with the stereo of course) - I seem to recall from a hire car years back that the trip was controlled from a push button on the end of the wiper stalk.

It seems daft to me for the car to have CD changer, auto wipers etc and not a trip computer.......I wondered if the stalk had been changed........
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No, I wasn't referring to the stereo stalk

I was referring to the wiper stalk, which if it has trip functionality has two triangles in the same style as a ffwd/rev symbol on a stereo

This advert has a stalk without trip

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-406-2 ... 41588b30dd

Whereas this stalk has trip - indicated by the two triangles in a ffwd/rev style of a tape player/cd/video/dvd blah blah blah

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/406-806-XSARA ... 1c1dc1e02f
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Re: OBD/Diagnostic socket

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Sorry - what a numbhead moment on my part lol. :oops:

The one on mine is the one without the arrows.

Reason for asking is when the battery has been disconnected and I re set the time etc it asks for a distance unit where I pick Km or Miles so I assumed it should have a trip function, though it doesn't request any gallon/litre data.......

I wondered if the original stalk had perhaps broken and had been replaced with the current one which hasn't the functionality.

Would the trip work if I got a stalk with the arrows......?

It would be handy to have a trip function.

Thanks for the help this far matey,
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Re: OBD/Diagnostic socket

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Sorry - what a numbhead moment on my part lol. :oops:

The one on mine is the one without the arrows.

Reason for asking is when the battery has been disconnected and I re set the time etc it asks for a distance unit where I pick Km or Miles so I assumed it should have a trip function, though it doesn't request any gallon/litre data.......

I wondered if the original stalk had perhaps broken and had been replaced with the current one which hasn't the functionality.

Would the trip work if I got a stalk with the arrows......?

It would be handy to have a trip function.

Thanks for the help this far matey,
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Sounds favourite that in the car's life it has had the stalk changed for the non trip stalk from the info you've gave

Quite often they fetch about £25 second hand on the bay of e, although I managed to get a brand new one of there for the same price
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I'm off out now to Donnington Park for a car meet, but if you want to PM me your vin number i'll check Service Box later to see if it lists trip on your cars characteristics

There are other members on here with SB, who may offer to look this info up prior to my getting back, but the offer is there 8)
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Hi plod - I think I sent a PM........computers are not my strength - if you don't get it let me know and I'll try again.

Thanks for doing that for me though, hope I can return the favour some time.
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just buy the appropriate stalk with trip computer for your car and activate the trip computer with PP2000 .... i bought one stalk from ebay which was pretty cheap ... because my 406 didn't had trip computer too like yours :)
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Re: OBD/Diagnostic socket

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Hi - Sorry to be a "Dummy David" - could you explain the PP2000 thing (and how to do it!)? :oops:

Hopefully plod will find out I should have it anyway but all advice on this is very gratefully received.....

Many thanks
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Bottled it going to Donnington due to the clutch problem, so been on Service Box, and these are your Characteristics of your car


General Information

PRODUCT TYPE CAR
COMMERCIAL MARQUE/COMPONENT TYPE PEUGEOT
VEHICLE FAMILY 406 (RESTYLING)
SILHOUETTE 5 DOOR ESTATE
TRIM LEVEL LEVEL 2 TER
ENGINE INJECTION EW10J4
TRANSMISSION BVM5
PAINT TYPE NON-METALLIC PAINT
BODY COLOUR KRG - PAINT PATAGONIA GREEN
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "GR" POINTILLON
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) GEARBOX BE4 V
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
OTHER BADGE WITHOUT FULLER BADGE
BADGE GLX


Vehicle Characteristics

TRIM LEVEL LEVEL 2 TER
PAINT TYPE NON-METALLIC PAINT
BODY COLOUR KRG - PAINT PATAGONIA GREEN
INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "GR" POINTILLON
UPHOLSTERY COLOUR "FZ"
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) GEARBOX BE4 V
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18


Fuel Supply - Engine

ENGINE INJECTION EW10J4
DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
FUEL LEAD FREE PETROL
EMISSIONS STANDARD (ENGINE) EEC 95 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
PRE-FILTER ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
SPEED SENSOR SIGNAL SENSOR HALL EFFECT
ENGINE (TYPE) EW/DW
CATALYTIC CONVERTER 3 PARTS CATALYST
OIL COOLER WITHOUT OIL-WATER DISTR CHAMB
CRANKCASE GAS CIRCUIT HEATING W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
FUEL SUPPLY CUTOFF FUEL FEED CUT-OFF
EOBD SELF-DIAGNOSIS SYSTEM WITHOUT "EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC
DEVICE (ANTIPOLLUTION) WITHOUT ANTI-POLLUTION DEVICE
VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION L3 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
PARTICLE FILTER WITHOUT PARTICLE FILTER
FAN 1 FAN 350W
FUEL VAPOUR RETRIEVAL CONTROLLED PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT W/O INJECTION VARIANT


Gearbox Transmission

RANSMISSION BVM5
GEARBOX (CHARACTERISTICS) GEARBOX BE4 V
FINAL DRIVE RATIO REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 19 X 79
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE TACHO TORQUE 22X18
WHEEL STYLE ALLOY WHEEL OPALE
CLUTCH HYDRAULIC CLUTCH
GEARBOX SAFETY LOCK W/O G/BOX SECURITY LOCKING
DIFFERENTIAL (GEARBOX) SUPERIOR GEARBOX DIFF
TYRE (SIZE, TYPE) 195X65X15 H TYRES
WHEELS FITTED 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
WHEEL (TYPE) ALLOY WHEELS
GEARBOX TYPE GEARBOX BE4R


Suspension - Steering - Brakes

ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22,5
ANTI-THEFT DEVICE STANDARD ANTI-THEFT
STEERING UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING
FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR FRONT ANTI ROLL BAR DIAM 24
SERVICE BRAKE ELECTRONIC BRAKEFORCE DISTRIBUTION
BRAKE TYPE VENTILATED FRONT DISCS/REAR DISCS
POWER STEERING FLUID COOLING SYSTEM WITH POWER STEERING OIL COOLING
SUSPENSION NORMAL SUSPENSION
ACTIVE SUSPENSION WITHOUT VARIABLE SUSPENSION
DYNAMIC STABILITY CONTROL SYSTEM WITHOUT ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM
EMERGENCY BRAKING ASSISTANCE BOSCH BRAKE SERVO


Body Fittings

HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
AERIAL AMPLIFIED ROOF AERIAL
WIPER ARM FRONT BLADE WITH DEFLECTOR
SIDE MOULDINGS (TYPE) PROTECTOR WITH CHROME RING
SIDE MOULDINGS (DIMENSION) LATERAL PROTECTORS WIDTH = 50
WHEEL EMBELLISHER (STYLE) OPAL CAP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
ADDITIONAL SHIELD (UNDER ENGINE) W/O ENGINE UNDERSHELDING
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
EXHAUST TAILPIPE TRIM W/O EXHAUST OUTLET EMBELLISHER
ENGINE BAY SOUNDPROOFING BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
WINDSCREEN WIPER FRONT WIPER BLADE WITH RAIN SENSOR
REAR SCREEN WIPER REAR SCREEN WIPER
HEADLAMP WIPER W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
FRONT PANEL BLANK WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
BUMPER BODY COLOUR FRONT/REAR BUMPER
MUDFLAP WITHOUT MUDGUARD
LUGGAGE RACK MOUNTING WITH ROOF BARS
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
EXTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR (PASSENGER SIDE) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
SPARE WHEEL STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
REAR SCREEN WASH REAR SCREEN WASH
SUN ROOF FIXED ROOF
GLASS (APPEARANCE) TINTED
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) FIXED REAR QTR GLASS


Interior Fittings

INTERIOR TRIM TYPE FOCH VELOUR + "GR" POINTILLON
ANTI-THEFT ALARM WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
REAR HEAD RESTRAINT REAR HEADREST ADJUSTABLE
FRONT HEAD RESTRAINT JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
REAR SEAT SEPARATE FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT WITHOUT SUPPLEMENTARY SEAT POSITN
REAR SEAT ARMREST WITHOUT REAR ARMREST
LOAD FLOOR MOULDING WITHOUT LOAD FLOOR STRIP
RADIO TELEPHONE WITHOUT TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT
LUGGAGE COVER WITH LUGGAGE COVER
FRONT SEATBELT PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
CLIMATE (AMBIENT TEMP) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
AIR CONDITIONING WITH HEATER ASSISTED CONTROL
SPEED GRADUATIONS GRADUATION MPH
CONSOLE LONG CONSOLE (SEPARATE GLOVE BOX)
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
DASHBOARD EQUIPMENT DASHBOARD LARGE GLOVEBOX COVER, WALNUT EFFECT TRIM
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
LOAD SPACE TRIM TRIM BOOT + RR TAILGAT FLAP
INSTRUMENT PANEL (CHARACTERISTICS) STANDARD SPEEDO LOWER GRADUATION
DOOR TRIM WITHOUT WOOD EFFECT DECOR WITHOUT LEATHER
TACHOMETER (SIGNAL CONNECTION) REV COUNTER CALC
CHILD SEAT ANCHORING POINTS WITHOUT CHILD SEAT MOUNTING
LOUDSPEAKER MOUNTING 4 LOUDSPEAKERS + 2 TWEETERS
RADIO CONTROLS REMOTE RADIO CONTROL WITHOUT CD FUNCTION
POLLEN FILTER WITH POLLEN FILTER
SCREENING (BLIND, SIDE SUNBLIND, SUNROOF) WITHOUT SUN VISOR SCREEN
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL WITHOUT FRONT PASSENGER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
DRIVER SEAT CONTROL DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT CONTROL PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
DRIVER SEAT ADJUSTMENT RECLINING DRIVER’S SEAT BACK
FRONT PASSENGER SEAT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER TILTING BACK
FRONT SEAT ARMREST ASSEMBLY WITHOUT FRONT ELBOW REST
EXTERIOR TEMP. INDICATOR EXT TEMP INDICATOR
COMPACT DISC MOUNTING COMPACT DISC
HANDBRAKE WARNING LAMP WITHOUT PARKING BREAK INDICATOR
SATELLITE NAVIGATION SYSTEM WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM
REAR WINDOW LIFT ELECT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
DRIVER’S WINDOW LIFT SEQUENTIAL DRIVER’S ELECTRIC WINDOW
PASSENGER’S WINDOW LIFT ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
DISPLAY DISPLAY (RADIO+CLOCK AND OR TEMP, CD)
COURTESY MIRROR DRIV OCCULT+PASS OCCULT W/O LIGHT
OIL GAUGE STD OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
HEATING ELEMENT NON HEATED SEAT
FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG WITHOUT FRONT SIDE AIRBAG
PASSENGER AIRBAG PASSENGER AIRBAG
ELECTRIC WINDOW (OPERATION) DRIVERS SIDE ELECTRIC WINDOW AUTO STOP
LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE (REAR PASSENGER COMPARTMENT) WITHOUT REAR SHELF LOUDSPEAKER GRILLE
ON-BOARD COMPUTER NO COMPUTER
AIRBAG DEACTIVATION MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT
FRONT SUN VISOR DRIVER’S+PASSENGER’S SIDE WITHOUT INSCRIPTION
RADIO RECEIVER "RM2" RDS CASSETTE AUDIO SYSTEM
REFRIGERATION AIR CONDITIONING
CRUISE CONTROL WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
DRIVER’S SEAT HEIGHT CONTROL PARR+FR DRV HEIGHT ADJ
INTERIOR REAR VIEW MIRROR DAY -NIGHT INNER REAR MIRROR
AIR CON./TEMPERATURE REGULATION WITH REGULATION AIRCON/TEMP
STORAGE (OTHERS) TWO STORAGE BOXES IN BOOT
CARPET COVER W/O CARPETMAT
DRIVER AIRBAG DRIVERS AIR BAG
EXT. REAR VIEW MIRROR (DRIVER SIDE RADIUS) DOMED DRIVER’S DOOR MIRROR GLASSS
LOAD SPACE STORAGE W/O BOOT TIDY
INTERIOR PROTECTION WITHOUT INNER PROTECTION
SWITCH ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
COOLANT LEVEL WARNING LAMP NO WATER LEVEL WARNING
ANTIPOLLUTION MALFUNCTION WARNING LAMP BAD FUNCTIONING ALARM
TRIM ADAPTATION STANDARD GEAR LEVER KNOB
EQUALISER AMPLIFIER WITHOUT EQUALISER AMPLIFIER
LOCKING CONTROL CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
REAR QUARTER WINDOW (TYPE) FIXED REAR QTR GLASS
STEERING WHEEL RUBBER STEERING WHEEL,4 BRANCH
FAN 1 FAN 350W


Electrical

ALTERNATOR ALTERNATOR 90 AMP
HORNS HORNS-HARMONY
BATTERY BATTERY L2 300
REMOTE CONTROL REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
STARTER MOTOR STARTER MOTOR CL 3
SPECIAL LIGHTING WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSION RADIO INTERFERENCE SUPPRESSOR
MISC. INT. LAMPS MAP READING LAMP
SILL ILLUMINATION LAMP WITHOUT SILL ILLUMINATION
EXT. REARVIEW MIRROR COMP. FUNCTION EXT DOOR MIRROR WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FUNCTION
COURTESY LAMP FR+RE DOORS CONT - FR+RE INTERIOR LAMP
FRONT FOGLAMP FRONT FOG LIGHTS
HEADLAMP HEIGHT ADJUSTER REMOTE MANUAL HEADLAMP ADJUSTMENT


Component Manufacturers

INJECTION ASSOCIATED VARIANT W/O INJECTION VARIANT


Miscellaneous

SPECIAL SPECIFICATION STANDARD
ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
FIRST AID KIT WITHOUT FIRST AID BOX
DRIVING POSITION RIGHT HAND DRIVE
TRAFFIC SIDE DRIVING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE
SIDE IMPACTS DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
SET OF KEYS 1 HF PLIP KEY + 1 SINGLE MAIN KEY
EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT W/O HELP EQUIPMENT
SURFACE CONDITIONS GOOD TERRAIN
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES BODY COLOUR DOOR MIRRORS + HANDLES
SPEED MONITORING WITHOUT SPEED CHECK
EMERGENCY WARNING TRIANGLE WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE
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Re: OBD/Diagnostic socket

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L12PUG wrote:Hi - Sorry to be a "Dummy David" - could you explain the PP2000 thing (and how to do it!)? :oops:

Hopefully plod will find out I should have it anyway but all advice on this is very gratefully received.....

Many thanks
PP2000 = Peugeot Planet 2000 - the dealer's diagnostic computer system, (some of us have Chinese 'clones' that can do the necessary configuration to enable some of the gadgetry your car could have had, assuming the hardware / wiring is there).

If you post your location, someone nearby may be able to do it for you. I'd suggest you try enabling the trip computer first and if you find your car supports it, then look round for a cheap stalk from a scrappy, or someone breaking a car on here......

[Shamless Plug Mode]Why not come to our meet at Gaydon next Saturday, I'll check it out for you, FOC? 8) [/SPM]
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2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
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2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
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