Travis Bickles VTR8 project, updated with pics.

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And this is the new project
The Xsara VTR 8 Valve Turbo or VTR8VT, or can anyone come up with a catchy project name?
How about VTRbo?

& for the seats, it may be worth looking at the diagrams on Servicebox & the Citroen equivalent to see if 306 seats will squeeze in.
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cant wait to see more progress travis. make sure you keep us updated :mrgreen:
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VTRB8 - Ve Tee Arr Beit :lol:

Man, feels kinda bad watching the poor old stealth wagon's demise. I don't think the Xsara deserves it :(
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I know, the guilt is killing me :(
Not done much this week, too busy with work. Still got to get some bits together yet too, and a i need a new welder :shock:
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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What a cow to get the dash out of the 406, I started to label all the plugs from where they came from but in the end ive just taken the component they go in and left it plugged in :cheesy:
The loom on the exec is enormous, I was thinking of transplanting the entire car loom into the vtr, but that may turn out to be more complicated, but who needs air con in a track orientated car.
so i think il just remove the circuits i dont need. Hopefully il just be left with the basic loom to run the engine, dash, fuel pump, lecky windows, lights, alarm and central locking.
The loom for the climate control, electric seats, air con and rain sensor can all get binned. Although im not sure if the air con is wired through the engine loom and ecu?
Il put some more pics up of the spahgeti thats the interior later.
Ive not done anything to the vtr yet bar an MOT, Im really impressed with the fuel consumption.
Ive been doing bits to the mrs 206 too, replaced both bottom arms and been having problems with the stepper motor. I went to the scrap metal yard earlier today and was amazed how light that 206 is, 880KG :shock: :shock: the book weight is something like 1020kg but it is the poverty spec model, doesnt even have powers steering :evil: It should be a bit more entertaining with the vtr lump in it :cheesy:
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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i mind that on the d9 i was breaking wires everywhere, and the dash even with all the bolts out i couldnt get it out.
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FarmerPug wrote:i mind that on the d9 i was breaking wires everywhere, and the dash even with all the bolts out i couldnt get it out.
I didnt have a security torx bit big enough for the steering column bolts so i had to undo the column at the steering rack and took it out with the dash, i could not believe how heavy it was :shock:
Been studying the wiring diagrams and the coolant fans seem to be controlled by the air con, will figure something out.
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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Little bit of an update, been away at work too much passed couple of weeks :roll:
Just been getting some bits together and putting the vtr through its test, Ive now got hold of a pug 306 D turbo front subframe, steering rack, hubs, driveshafts and anti roll bar.
The mrs 206 has been playing up something chronic :evil: After trying 2 different stepper motors on it ive had to completely rewire it back to the ecu, sorted idling out, now the coilpack is joining in the fun too :x just got to jkeep bodging it up till i put the vtr lump in it :roll:
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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Well ive not been on for a bit, but finally got rid of the estate after cutting it all up into boot sized pieces only using a big chisel, hammer and a hacksaw! Got the entire wiring loom out intact so thats a bonus. Ive stripped the back out of the xsara and according to the weigh bridge at work its lost 20kg so it now weighs in at a plump 1040kg there is still some more weight to come out yet.
I still need to get a DTurbo gearbox and clutch and then im just about set to get it all fitted.
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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TRAVIS BICKLE wrote:Well ive not been on for a bit, but finally got rid of the estate after cutting it all up into boot sized pieces only using a big chisel, hammer and a hacksaw! Got the entire wiring loom out intact so thats a bonus. Ive stripped the back out of the xsara and according to the weigh bridge at work its lost 20kg so it now weighs in at a plump 1040kg there is still some more weight to come out yet.
I still need to get a DTurbo gearbox and clutch and then im just about set to get it all fitted.
Hi mate,
glad to see you back on here,

Cutting up the 406 with hamer and chizel :shock: ibet you had sore hands afterwards,

ive chopped a few cars up in the past its hard work, Lump hammer and a sharp axe works a treat, :mrgreen:

keep us all updated on the zara project mate, will be good to see this completed,

ive just bought one, but its a bit newer and more uglier than the model you have :lol:
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They are a surprisingly entertaing drive even though mine is only currently 90brake. Im quite impressed with it really, should be well nippy with the tubby engine in it.
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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Travis, on the rear end of your zara on the axle have you got one long bar or 2?
just been looking underneath mine today and noticed two, ones black thick like scafolding and on top of it theres another one Bright red and thiner, , dont know what there called as a guess torsion bars or summat, :roll:

my 306 didnt have 2 just wonderd if someones added this, :roll:
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Yeah, you have the big beam tube, then the torsion bars, one in front and one behind, and there is an anti roll bar inside the beam tube.
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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TRAVIS BICKLE wrote:Well ive not been on for a bit, but finally got rid of the estate after cutting it all up into boot sized pieces only using a big chisel, hammer and a hacksaw! Got the entire wiring loom out intact so thats a bonus. Ive stripped the back out of the xsara and according to the weigh bridge at work its lost 20kg so it now weighs in at a plump 1040kg there is still some more weight to come out yet.
I still need to get a DTurbo gearbox and clutch and then im just about set to get it all fitted.
How could you do that to the pug? I mean seriously.. :o
Captain Jack wrote:On a serious note, I managed to get my knob off after some persuasive yanking. Then used some epoxy to put the new one on. Glue still setting now so haven't had the chance to test it.
steve_earwig wrote:Ooh-er mrs. :shock:
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I took a scientific aproach to it, and i found rust. I cut the sills off and found the B post rusting where it meets the inner sill. Not good cos from the outside it looked mint. And when i cut the top of the b post the bottom came away quite easily. The at the front of the inner sills there was more rust. So the autopsy revealed something that everyone can be aware of. Get the waxoyl out boys. I felt a bit bad about cutting it up, but ive done the same to more exotic machinery before.
98, Executive turbo estate in aluminum silver. The stealth wagon! Now departed, New project Xsara VTR-8 in progress, Next Project, 406 D8 / JAP. So will be looking for a 406 again when the xsara is done!
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