405 to 406 Conversion

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ally406
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Re: 405 to 406 Conversion

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Hangar18 wrote:
ally406 wrote:At the sides of the rear seats you should see the bolts comming through for the rear subframe. This could be the place to brace.

Before you go too much further, have you checked the condition of the rear chassis legs? The rear chassis legs on mine visually looked ok, but turned out to be mostly rust scale that just crumbled :shock: I would also carefully check the condition of the rear beam bearings, these will take a pounding on the track. As you probably know PSA cars with this suspension arrangement can have problems here. If you plan to adjust the ride height, be prepared for a fight with the torsion bars. It took a MAPP torch and a sledge hammer to free mine, it would probably be easier just to pop the whole axle assembly off the car for this.
I will take a look in that area- is there any particular part on the rear I should be checking for play in?
and LOL!! that's hilarious... I'm really sorry! I find stuff that's rusted/swollen into place a joy to work with! I'll save all the pent up 2011 anger for this job then ;)

The rear end on the 405 is flying uber high with the absence of regular weight in what was a soft and high riding bum anyway- but I thought ground clearance was desirable in a rally-prepped road car?
Check that the rear wheels are perpendicular to the ground. When the bearings start to fail the wheels lean in like it has negative camber. At that point it's probably also wrecked the axle and would need siginficant work to put right. Some people drill a little hole in the trailing arm between the bearings and fit a grease nipple. They can then pump grease in between the bearings to keep them good.
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Re: 405 to 406 Conversion

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ally406 wrote:
Hangar18 wrote:
ally406 wrote:At the sides of the rear seats you should see the bolts comming through for the rear subframe. This could be the place to brace.

Before you go too much further, have you checked the condition of the rear chassis legs? The rear chassis legs on mine visually looked ok, but turned out to be mostly rust scale that just crumbled :shock: I would also carefully check the condition of the rear beam bearings, these will take a pounding on the track. As you probably know PSA cars with this suspension arrangement can have problems here. If you plan to adjust the ride height, be prepared for a fight with the torsion bars. It took a MAPP torch and a sledge hammer to free mine, it would probably be easier just to pop the whole axle assembly off the car for this.
I will take a look in that area- is there any particular part on the rear I should be checking for play in?
and LOL!! that's hilarious... I'm really sorry! I find stuff that's rusted/swollen into place a joy to work with! I'll save all the pent up 2011 anger for this job then ;)

The rear end on the 405 is flying uber high with the absence of regular weight in what was a soft and high riding bum anyway- but I thought ground clearance was desirable in a rally-prepped road car?
Check that the rear wheels are perpendicular to the ground. When the bearings start to fail the wheels lean in like it has negative camber. At that point it's probably also wrecked the axle and would need siginficant work to put right. Some people drill a little hole in the trailing arm between the bearings and fit a grease nipple. They can then pump grease in between the bearings to keep them good.
I'll have to take a look at the condition of the rear end quite thoroughly to be sure that I'm not in that situation then! Sounds like I need someone with your level of knowledge and experience to have a quick look around the car to give the thumbs up or down on investing time and money into the project!
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Re: 405 to 406 Conversion

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Hangar18 wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rollcage-show ... 894wt_1396

Does this sort of stuff make the cut?
yeah if you want something to hang your washing on

dont think you will find one of the shelf you would be best to phone up a roll cage maker,but before doing that you need to find out what spec your cage needs to be eg wall thickness,4 or 6 point,1 or 2 door bars, does it need to fix to the struts etc.
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