Towbar wiring - is it safe ?

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Towbar wiring - is it safe ?

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Hi all,

Going to fit a single 12n socket towbar to my HDI estate, but have been told that Scotchlocking into the lighting loom upsets the BSI ? I've also been told conflicting stories, that it'll work fine !! Any ideas ? :?
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I'll check mine but i think it is just scotchlocked on to the loom,remember you will need the indicator buzzer working as i am led to understand that towbars will soon be part of the MOT check.When i wired my BMW towbar i needed to use a bypass relay as it has warnings on the mfd when a bulb is out and thought when i plugged the caravan in there was a lighting fault,i don't know if the 406 is that sensitive.
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406's don't have bulb fail sensing, (less to go wrong and full voltage to the headlight bulbs). :D
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The buzzer only works when your towing so unless they request you take your caravan to the mot station :lol: or they try a trailer board how will they know if the buzzer works or even if theres one fitted?
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scotty73 wrote:The buzzer only works when your towing so unless they request you take your caravan to the mot station :lol: or they try a trailer board how will they know if the buzzer works or even if theres one fitted?
Because they have a test set of lights.
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From what i have heard i think they will have a test rig to check the functions of the towbars electrics.
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Ok but surely the buzzer don't come under the mot rules, most tow bars are sold without them so in my eyes aslong as the electrics work then it's not a problem, then again they make the stupid rules up so your probably right. :roll:
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I think it is in the regulations that when a towbar is fitted it must also have a buzzer fitted aswell but don't quote me on that.
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Hi when I fitted my towbar to my D8 estate I just scotch locked into my wiring loom and have had no problems ,and yes it has to have a buzzer by law
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Thanks all, and on balance, I'm guessing it's safe to Scotchlock away !

It's been a law that towbar electrics should have either a buzzer, or a light on the dash to confirm that the indicators on the trailer are working for a few years now, but I've had many cars with bars fitted, and not one had either.
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My vans got a buzzer fitted and it's somewhere just behind the bulkhead and it perforates your eardrums when you indicate while towing! :(
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Thanks for dropping the roof bars in to me today Brett, much appreciated. I haven't had a chance to have a good look at them yet, but with a bit of luck, I'll be snowed in tomorrow, unable to get to work, leaving me the day to play in the garage :)
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I should have fun in July when it's MOT time then because the guy who fitted my towbar last month will be the one doing my Mot. (without a buzzer) :lol:
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grasmere59 wrote:My vans got a buzzer fitted and it's somewhere just behind the bulkhead and it perforates your eardrums when you indicate while towing! :(
.......Lol I know what you mean I fitted the bleeper behind the light panel at the back of my car and it was so loud my dog used to howl, when I indicated :shock: so I wrapped some insulation tape round it :supafrisk: and it is stil audible.
1997 406 2.0 petrol estate lx..D8.............OH dear where does this nut go?
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