Disable Auto Lights

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Disable Auto Lights

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Is it possible to permantly disable the Auto lights function on my 2003 Exec estate,i think the comm 2000 is playing up and sometimes when i indicate either way the sodding "enable/disable" bong goes off and the mfd shows the message,it'll do it for a few days then not do it for a while then start all over again.It's really getting annoying but as my car has the dreaded ESP trying to find a secondhand comm 2000 unit is like looking for hens teeth and a new one is an arm and a leg and probably a few internal organs aswell.The rest of the comm 2000 works o.k.Any ideas?
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I think you can switch it off with PP2000!
I'l have a look when mine arrives.
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Mine did same thing on the Cistern gzara

fecking anoying when they turn on on there own,

Bsi reset seems to have sorted mine, if it happens again the bulbs are coming out
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It is "just" annoying during the day but the lights don't come on cos it's daylight but at night it's more annoying as the lights go on and off for half a second during the change over from auto on to auto off,what is a "BSI reset"?
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Bsi reset?

have aread, just ignore the boring bits just follow, 3 min rule,.


Peugeot BSi reboot procedure

Some of you will have already come across a strange problem when programming
keys on 2002 onwards Bsi equipped Peugeot. This usually presents
itself as a complete instrument cluster failure after the keys have
been programmed when the customer comes to collect the car.
BSI Unit
The BSI unit is basically a computer which
handles a multitude of functions such as
odometer value, central locking, lights and
immobiliser. Some later Bsi units are liable
to corrupt their own software program if
not “woken up” in a specific way after
programming keys or battery disconnection.
The details of this are explored
thoroughly in a Peugeot TSB but I will
summarise for you briefly.
Procedure for Initialising the BSI after key learning
1. Disconnect the diagnostic tool.
2. Put the driver’s window down, lift the bonnet and ensure all
equipment is switched off.
3. Ensure all doors are closed and remove key from the
ignition.
4. Wait for 3 minutes, disconnect the vehicle battery and wait
15 seconds.
5. Reconnect the vehicle battery, wait a further 10 seconds (do
not open doors.)
6. Switch on the side lights through the driver's window.
7. Switch on the ignition and check system’s functionality.
8. Hold lock button on key down for 10 seconds.
9.remove key open & close door test c entral locking system
10. Start the engine and complete the system’s check.
Failure to follow this procedure could result in incorrect operation of many
BSI related items.
It did take three attempts following this procedure before it worked.





regarding battery dis-connects on Peugeot Citroen BSi units:

PROCEDURE FOR BATTERY DIS-CONNECTION (The 3 Minute Rule)

Whenever a vehicle battery has to be dis-connected, switch off all equipment, interior lights etc, close the doors leaving the drivers window open.

Switch off the ignition and remove the key and any DIAG equipment.

Wait a full 3 minutes before disconnecting the battery.

The BSi must be allowed to go to SLEEP ie into "power save mode". Do not operate any equipment on the vehicle during this time. Remember, even opening the bonnet will wake the BSi on a vehicle fitted with alarm.

If the battery is under the bonnet, open the bonnet first and leave it up. 807 batteries can be dis-connected through the drivers window, remove floor cover first.

ALWAYS disconnect any DIAG equipment and do not operate any plips from other vehicles during the 3 minute waiting period.

PROCEDURE FOR BATTERY RECONNECTION

Unless otherwise instructed by Peugeot or Product Service, you must always carry out the following procedure, often referred to as a "soft re-boot", to minimise the possibility of the BSi corrupting its own software when reconnecting the vehicles battery supply.
Ensure the procedure for battery disconnection has been adhered to and importantly all BSi functions were switched off with the drivers window left down.

1 Close all doors
2 Remove ignition key if left in ignition
3 Reconnect battery. DO NOT open any doors
4 Wait 10 seconds
5 Switch on healights through the drivers window (you will hear a "bong")
6 Switch on ignition then start the vehicle and check system functions


NOTE: Upon reconnection, if any vehicle function controlled by the BSi i.e . interior light is switched on,the internal operation of the BSi has the potential to spike or corrupt its configuration and software program......
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Does anyone know what other cars the comm 2000 (6242C6) might be fitted to just in case i have to do a search for a secondhand unit.
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Reckon you could probably get away with a 407 one in your late spec 406. Possibly a 307, but not too confident on how widely fitted the ESP was on those.
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hi ive just had mine old com2000 fixed off a guy from bradford on ebay £20 + postage. havent fitted it yet as i got 1 off ebay but it seems fine :) :) :)
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I had thought of that but i emailed him or someone who mends them for £20 and he wasn't sure he could fix my problem,he seemed o.k. with indicator faults etc but was unsure he could fix my auto lights problem,my indicators seem fine at the moment.
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I've been trawling the net for a replacement comm2000 and i can't believe how many variations there are,there must be literally 100's of different versions,what were the French thinking of when they made them :|
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grasmere59 wrote:I've been trawling the net for a replacement comm2000 and i can't believe how many variations there are,there must be literally 100's of different versions,what were the French thinking of when they made them :|
"One day a bloke called Graham from Brize Norton will need a new Com2000... He will be f*cked! Mwwhahahahahaha"


Yep I'd say it'd be something like that! :roll:
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Where is the light sensor located?

is it intergrated with the sensor for the Auto-wipers?
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Bailes1992 wrote:
grasmere59 wrote:I've been trawling the net for a replacement comm2000 and i can't believe how many variations there are,there must be literally 100's of different versions,what were the French thinking of when they made them :|
"One day a bloke called Graham from Brize Norton will need a new Com2000... He will be f*cked! Mwwhahahahahaha"

Who's Graham? :?
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grasmere59 wrote:
Bailes1992 wrote:
grasmere59 wrote:I've been trawling the net for a replacement comm2000 and i can't believe how many variations there are,there must be literally 100's of different versions,what were the French thinking of when they made them :|
"One day a bloke called Graham from Brize Norton will need a new Com2000... He will be f*cked! Mwwhahahahahaha"

Who's Graham? :?
Why did I think your name was Graham :roll: :oops:
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Welsh water must haggle your mind. :cheesy:
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