Rear brake woes

[martinez]

ok, so I thought may need new pads in rear, took wheels off and pads fine, handbrake not but couldn't get the pins out of the calipers. is there a knack ? some kind person has turned the pins so you can't pull the clips out ! nice ! anyway, bought new disks and shoes, so all ready to replace just worried I won't get the bloody pins out !
oh, nice design where you have to bend the brake pipe to get the caliper out the way eh

[Doggy]

I had to drill 3 out of the 4 pins out when I did mine.

Didn't realise you can buy a new set of pins etc. from the parts place - a real rip-off at about £14 with VAT, but better than the alternative.

[martinez]

well I was thinking if I removed one of the caliper bolts, I could swing it enough to get mole grips on the pin and turn it, then replace bolt and do same other end.
So, is this one of those moments when I say, doesn't anybody do stainless pins ?
there could be a market eh.

[dummysock]

I suggest that you gently tap the pins with a nail punch and hammer to break the seal. Hopefully you should be able to turn the pin to remove the clip, by holding the pin with a pair of pliers.

Then tap the pins through the calipers with the nail punch from the outside of the car to the centre.

Replacements here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-406-6 ... 908wt_1163

[martinez]

good idea matey, I may also try rattling it off with my cordless impact gun and a small torx bit

[chomerly]

I had a similar problem over the weekend when changing my rear wheel bearings and brake discs, pads and shoes.

The pins had basically corroded in place so all I did was got an household screw (couldn't find my punch) and gripped it with a pair of pliers.
I then took a 2 pound hammer gave them one good hit.
They came out straight away and i was able to crack on.

Replacement pins from local motor factors, Midwest, were only £7 +vat for two pairs.

I know they will post if you want to check their website for the number.

[martinez]

cheers for that, think they have a place in Bilston. first though I've got to get those bloody clips out which means turning the pins somehow

[jasper5]

cheers for that, think they have a place in Bilston. first though I've got to get those bloody clips out which means turning the pins somehow

As you are replacing the pins you can break off the old clips with a pair of side cuts and maybe file down the leftover bit of the clip....if you can't get at the leftover bit just use a punch and punch the old pin out with the leftover bit still in place, they are very soft and will squash up as you punch the pins out....be careful though don't rush it.

Use the correct size pin punch if you can they are fairly cheap to buy.

[chomerly]

cheers for that, think they have a place in Bilston. first though I've got to get those bloody clips out which means turning the pins somehow

I hadn't realised that you were from the same neck of the woods as me.

I got mine from there last Friday before doing the back brakes and wheel bearings.
They're much cheaper than eBay. £18 i saw some for

Try using a sharpened cold chisel.
If you can know a groove in you may be able to spin them with each hit.

[martinez]

I hadn't realised that you were from the same neck of the woods as me.

Oh yes, originally a staffordshire lad born n bred, (strong in the arm n thick in the head) but when they moved the boundaries in the sixties I woke up to find I lived in Wolves and still here for the moment.
Anyway, done brakes today and what a game, took me 3 hours to do the first one and about 2 hours for the second. total overhaul job. N/S caliper sliders siezed, O/S ok but brake pad had come unstuck from steel plate. Pins came out eventually with lots of wiggling and tapping in and out and lashings of WD40 etc (nail punch worked great, good tip).
Had a right game with handbrake on O/S as I think previous owner has adjusted the cable trying to fix the problem. Anyway, all done now, new disks new shoes new pads total cost £65 from RSJ in Cable St, good prices and a shop on ebay too

[chomerly]

Great news mate.
Glad you got it sorted.

When i did mine last week i had trouble with the retaining pins for the pads.
I had to bash it out using a household screw and a 2lb hammer and they were out with a single stroke.

I haven't heard of RSJ before.
I though most smaller motor factors had been eaten up by the likes of GSF and Motoraids and such.

[martinez]

RSJ are nearer for me and do have a lot of trade customers, they also do Seeley tools. anyway, they don't do the pins and their ebay site only sells tools it seems, but worth a try as the shop's full of spares
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/rsjmotorfactor ... 4340.l2563