''Dead Lock''?

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Re: ''Dead Lock''?

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I bet that's a config option somewhere in the BSI

Although my handbook says the same as what I described, so they must have decided to change it :roll:

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Possibly. I was always under the impression that the ' extra ' deadlocking was optional i.e. you can choose not to use them and just do a single press. If you choose to use the ' extra ' locks then press twice.

I will try tomorrow to see if I can unlock my doors from the inside after I have deadlocked it. I have also enabled the ' auto-locking ' on PP2000 which is handy.
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I've just checked the manuals and they all describe deadlocking as the default option (except the earliest 01/01/2002 - 30/06/2002 manual that doesn't describe deadlocking at all).
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mjb wrote:
Sonia406 wrote:Lock normally then press the little button yes?
How do you know if it is successfully dead locked?
Big button then little button within a few seconds. You'll hear a different noise coming from the central locking when you press the small button as the interior handles are disengaged, and depending on the alarm type, you may see a long flash of the hazard lights signifying the alarm's now active.

Ummmm I don't have an alarm :shock:
Nor immobilisers! :shock:

I'm going to play tomorrow but when I pressed it earlier it did nothing........
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My central locking doesnt work off the plip only by the key,if I hold the key to the left for another second I can hear the deadlocks engaging : 8)
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My D8 had a sticky lock on the rear nearside door, so if you deadlocked it it usually refused to unlock, great fun when your friends are stood out in the rain and you're sat in the car going lock, unlock "try again!", lock, unlock, "try again!"..... If I didn't deadlock it it unlocked fine every time, so in the end I stopped using the deadlocks :oops:
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DaiRees wrote:My D8 had a sticky lock on the rear nearside door, so if you deadlocked it it usually refused to unlock, great fun when your friends are stood out in the rain and you're sat in the car going lock, unlock "try again!", lock, unlock, "try again!"..... If I didn't deadlock it it unlocked fine every time, so in the end I stopped using the deadlocks :oops:

He he he he he :lol:
My dead locking doesn't work.. No idea why... Not too fussed... Will try again with the new key when it arrives.. I think the car does have it fitted (why else would I have a key with two buttons?!) Hey, who knows! :lol:
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I double-pressed my button today ( ooer ) while I was in the car. When I opened the door to get out, the alarm went off!!!
Still got out though, so maybe only deadlocks from the outside?
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I don't suppose Coupes are any different, but just to add my two penneth.....(I have the 'teardrop' type key, same as Sonia posted above)
One press of the larger button locks the car. The LED on the fob flashes as long as the button is pressed and the indicators blink once.
Press the smaller button within 5 seconds and the car deadlocks and arms the alarm. LED flashes same as before and you get a second blink of the indicators. If you leave it longer than 5 seconds, the press of the smaller button gets ignored, so if you wanted to deadlock and alarm, but missed the 5 second window, you'd have to unlock and start again.
On mine and I suppose some saloons/estates as well, when deadlocking, any windows left open will automatically close. (Total Closure I believe they've called it)
To unlock, just one press of the large button. You get greeted with 2 seconds worth of rapid indicator blinking at this point!
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I have activated the ' total closure ' on my Estate but doesn't work as I don't have one touch windows all round. Coupes have only 2 windows, I have 4 and a sunroof..!!
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My Coupe has 4 electric windows! :supafrisk:

Well , not quite.... I fitted the electric openers from the Megane Coupe to open the rear quarter windows. It's not integrated into the total closure system though, just a stand alone circuit.
I use them all the time. It's a far nicer way to ventilate the cabin! 8)
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I've the same key as the first pic.
and it is press the large button to normal lock and set alarm, then press the small button straight after to deadlock, and you get another clunk from the locks.
Opening is just one press of the large button, deadlocked or not.

But you can set the alarm differently with the switch in the centre console. Press and hold it, till it lights up, before you get out, then when you lock (or deadlock) the car, the alarm is set with the interior sensors disabled.

Or lock the car with the key in the door method (not the fob button) and this disables the exterior alarm sensors. Turn the key in the door twice, and this deadlocks the car with the exterior alarm sensors disabled.
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Problem is, Miss Pug doesn't have an alarm. :shock:
I wasn't going to reveal this information when it came to light but you guys all seem to have alarms........
I don't see how she can possibly have a dead lock when she doesn't have an alarm? Seems rather stupid that she has the key capable of deadlocking.
Surely, deadlocking should only be available if there is an alarm?

I didn't even know I had an immoby, as it wasn't mentioned on service box. I do have an immoby though. Hurrah for small bloody miracles, excuse me if I am not jumping for joy but even my older 205s had alarms, ffs. :evil:
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From what I remember in the book, don't think you have to have an alarm to still have deadlocks.
Worth trying the key in the door method twice to check for deadlocks.
turn it once to lock it, let the key return but don't take it out of the lock,
then turn it again, and you should get another locking clunk to confirm the deadlock.
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rustybullets wrote:From what I remember in the book, don't think you have to have an alarm to still have deadlocks.
Worth trying the key in the door method twice to check for deadlocks.
turn it once to lock it, let the key return but don't take it out of the lock,
then turn it again, and you should get another locking clunk to confirm the deadlock.
Our paths have not yet crossed, either you're a super new member (in which case, welcome) or you've been a little quiet until now.. Either way - thanks for the above information, I shall definitely be trying that... :D
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