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Wheel Bearings

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Well it sounds like i've got a wheel bearing (near side rear) on the way, groaning noise a round 40mph.

The simple question is do i need to/should i get both sides done?

any ideas on cost?

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Re: Wheel Bearings

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mbell666 wrote:Well it sounds like i've got a wheel bearing (near side rear) on the way, groaning noise a round 40mph.

The simple question is do i need to/should i get both sides done?

any ideas on cost?

Thanks
I'd check the brakes first.

VERY RARE to get wheel bearing wear these days.
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Post by 406 express »

Had the same issue with mine and will almost garentee that it is the tracking arms not the bearings or brakes, have a look under the car and see if there is amy play in them, one of mine snapped!!!
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Post by mbell666 »

Hi

Thanks for the replies.

It shouldn't be the the track arms (there the cheap one that go all the time aren't they?) as i've had both rear ones done in thewithen the last two years.

The brakes have also been done recently and i greased the rear ones. I will check them thou.

The car has done over 137K so it wouldn't be that bad for a wheel bearing to have gone.
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My brakes were *bad* and they were like that all the way from 'icky' to 'seriously hampering the ability of the car to move'. At no point did the grinding sound (from either rear wheel) appear/disappear/change in relation to corners. If the callipers aren't loose I'd be suspecting dodgy wheel bearings...
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as the noise is comming from the rear, i would almost certainly say its the handbrake shoes, my car does it as mine are completley buggerd
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the noise is only apparent around 40mph, but seams to be getting worse. Both mine and my brother initial reaction to the noise was fault wheel bearing. i haven't noticed the noise coming and going with direction, but not a lot of corners that i go around at 40.

i did jack it up and the rear brake wasn't suck, but the wheel was more stiff than the other side.

The Car has had new brakes, inc handbrake shoes and i copper slipped the slides when i did the brakes so shouldn't be them. Hopefully i will have time to jack up the car at the weekend and have another play.
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Welton wrote:I'd check the brakes first.

VERY RARE to get wheel bearing wear these days.
I think you might be right, i finally had chance to look at the car this weekend. I jacked it up and strip the rear brakes, fitted new shims (couldn't fit them in with the new pads originally) and checked that the calipers where sliding ok.

From this it looks like the piston in the rear passenger caliper is sticking/seized. Drivers slide was very easy to get the piston back in, but could hardly move the passenger side.

Anyone got any tips for releasing them?

I don't have a vice or workshop so overhauling the caliper isn't something i really want to do.
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my car has got a seized caliper too, well i think both are, i cant be arsed to fix it though, the easiest way to free it off, would be to remove the caliper and get yourself some HUGE water pump pliers and push the piston back in, then get a foot pump, and pump air down the brake fluid pipe on the caliper, do this a few times should free it off, refit the caliper and bleed the brakes, it would make more sense to replace the caliper though as it will probably seize again, the common cause of calipers seizing is lack of use or more likely, infrequent enough brake fluid changes
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thanks,

i need to fix it because the car has gone from around 53/54 mpg to 47/48 and as i am now doing a lot more miles i'll notice the difference.

any idea how much a caliper cost not been able to find one online for sale? if there not too much i might aswell have a new one rather than having to keep mess around with it!
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If you think you are experiencing drag on the rear brakes, check them for heat when you get back from a run, they should not get too hot really, just warm to hot maybe about 50 to 60 dgreesC after some decent braking. Sometimes on mine they are stone cold but I tend to stay off the brakes, but the discs run really clean still.

I think you will end up down the dealers for new calipers, but try eurocarparts etc, I don't know what you'd expect to pay.
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i've already had a feel at the wheels the passenger (faulty side) is noticeably warmer (but not hot) than the other drivers side.

I've looked at eurocarparts but not been able to find the rear brake calipers, will call at the dealers its not far from work.
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when i checked for calipers with the dealer for my car i think they were £111 each, and that was trade price :shock:
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:(

I just found them on Eurocarparts, £82.45 with £25 surcharge.

I think i might have to see about a re-con kit for them.
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Post by Welly »

In the words of Victor Meldrew........

I do not belieeeeeeeeeve it :shock:

Mine has started to 'sing' at the back now, just like a wheel bearing noise :cry:

Damn and Blast.
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