HDi Fuel filter housing lid removal

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:06 pm

Can someone help me out here before I kick the coupe into next week.

I'm trying the change the fuel filter, but can unscrew the lid off the housing. It's stuck solid. I've got a decent grip around all of it, but it just won't budge. I'm off back to the garage to swear at it a bit more

PS 2.2HDi

diesel.weasel · Post by **diesel.weasel** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:11 pm

use a socket on the hex on top of the filter housing.

The housing is usually quite tight due to the seal spring

Cheers DW.

PS If you knacker the quick connections on the fuel lines you can repair the locking ring with a cable tie!

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:46 pm

Fancy taking some pictures? I need to do mine and ain't really got much clue about it, other than it involves petrol spilling and some tubing or something...

GODDAMN I wish I could find my Haynes! ISTR it didn't have much info on changing the fuel filter tho...

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:02 pm

As Delboy would say, it's all a bit epidemic now, I've bust the housing!

There's no bolt on the 2.2HDi filter, so it's all supposed to be about pushing down and turning. But I've had the housing out of the car, and still can't budge it. I ended up snapping one of the pipe connectors, so I've got to get a new housing.

All I can say is what a ridiculous set up, what was wrong with the old filter with 4 allan key bolt on each corner of the lid. Peugeot have pissed me off this time. My car's now of the road until I can get a filter housing.

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:25 pm

if your careful and need to use the car, you can by-pass the fuel filter temporarily as you have already removed it

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:31 pm

It'll be inconvienient, but I can get by without using it. I was tempted to try araldite on the broken pipe, but I've decided against it.

Do you know if the fuel filter housing will come with a fuel filter already inside it? If not, should it be easier to remove the lid on the new one. Last thing I want to do is break the new one (at a cost of £50 odd!!)

jameslxdt · Post by **jameslxdt** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:36 pm

it should come with a filter, if it doesnt then complain, and get them to fit the filter to the housing for you

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:39 pm

I've already bought a filter, I hope they'll refund it for me. Only thing is, I might have to buy the housing from someone else, depends on if anyone's got one in stock tomorrow.

mbell666 · Post by **mbell666** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:11 pm

I believe the housing come with a filter.

Will be changing my fuel filter in about 1K, plan to do the whole housing as get the lid on and off (even on 2.0 with socket) is a real pain. Always feels like your going to snap the plastic!

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:59 pm

Well the difference in price on the 2.2Hdi is £17 for the filter alone, or £60 for the housing with the filter already in.

I have a sneaking suspicion this is another money making ploy by Peugoet. There was nothing wrong with the old style filter housing, and they'd always last the life of the car.

This new setup now costs me £43 extra, swines (and that's being polite incase there's a censor on the site)

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:30 pm

Well I can see why my mechanic bloke wanted me to buy a filter in the housing (and yes, it does come with a filter already installed). The job was p*ss easy.

Problem is, even though I've broke the old filter housing, I still can't get it open, no matter how brutal I am with it. The new one wouldn't budge either, but I was a lot more delicate with that!!

Post by **DaiRees** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:26 pm

At least you've cracked it mate (no pun intended

). As you say, Keith's obviously been there before

.

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:02 am

THere must be a way to get the filter out, as they sell it seperately. How, is another thing.

As for changing it on the HDi, there's no bleeding or anything, the engine's self priming. The Haynes manual actually says "start the car as normal", but I turned on and off the ignition until I could see no more air in the fuel line and it started as if nothing had ever happenned. At least now the service can be finished tomorrow and I that'll be another chapter over.

turbolag · Post by **turbolag** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:55 pm

These are notoriously difficult to open without breaking. Disconnect the whole lot and place the top of the cannister in a vice. On most 90/110s it's a hex shape and fits nicely. on the 136 the shape is different, so care is required. Then carefully place a fabric oil filter fabric strap wrench round the body and twist off. It takes a terrific ammount of force, and if you do it with the cannister in situ it is often sufficient to break the mounts/split the cannister where the mounts fit on the engine.

Note - there are 2 different typres of filter element, and there's no way of telling which one your car takes without checking the old one (or, if you're lucky, checking old service involces for a part no). The more common typre is completely cylindrical, but the lesser found type is a cylinder with an odd shaped end to engage the interior of the cannister.

Enjoy!

neildavies · Post by **neildavies** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:29 am

Cheers Turbolag. As I said, I've had to buy the housing this time, but I'll keep this advice for next time.