Sump required for my 2.2Hdi

[GingerMagic]

Is it possible to find out some info on Service Box?

I have the part number for my sump, but a new one is £260, one from Ade is £100 and I am hoping to get one nearer £40. Nutski may have one lined up for me but it is not guaranteed at the moment and my sump gasket is letting go....

Part number is 0301 J6 - just wanted to know which other Pugs, Citroen, Ducatos etc share the same part - so I can broaden my search.

Thanks team,

Kelv.

[dirtydirtydiesel]

Kelv,
Why do you want to replace your sump bud?

[jonsowman]

Evening Kelv!

ServiceBox lists the following:

1 document(s) found for 607
1 document(s) found for 406 (RESTYLING)
1 document(s) found for 607 RESTYLING
1 document(s) found for 807

Edit: Additionally, Citroen Service lists the following:

1 document(s) found for C5 II
1 document(s) found for C8
1 document(s) found for C5

Basically, anything fitted with the DW12A engine...

[GingerMagic]

DDD, my sump gasket is leaking and the sump plug has been tapped, re-tapped and bodged so many times by previous owners ( taxi firm ) that the bolt is some obscure fitment and it can't be cut again as there is some sort of object behind the hole..??

The A/c pump or alternator or fuel pump is making a noise - I have squirted each with WD40 but still the noise is there, so the A/C pump needs to come off to test it so it seems like a good time to do the sump and gasket while it is removed.

Jon - thanks for the info. There are 2.2Hdi Ducato vans but I don't know if they use the DW12 lump. I will keep my eye out for the other models on the list.

Much appreciated.

[steve_earwig]

...Ducatos etc share the same part

Neither Service Box tells us that, PSA has their own part numbers while Fiat (and anyone else ) use others. You can do it on some part supplier's sites, where they list all the alternative part numbers and work backwards from them but they only stock common parts that are likely to sell, like consumables (filters etc) or engine sensors (e.g. MAF) so I'm not finding much at all. I did come up with this number 9637605380 a few times (it's probably stamped into the casting somewhere), seems to be a manufacturers number and it brought up a 2.2 JTD Fiat Useless on a Russian site. Not something I'd like to put money on though

[dirtydirtydiesel]

Fair enough Kelv,
I only asked because you could helicoil it, a much better & stronger fix. It's the way ally sump's should be done from new, mine was stripped when I bought it .
So I did mine in situ on the car ( kit's can be hired for £25 ) so much cheeper than replacing the sump, with a second hand one which will probably be no better .

If you think your's is beyond fixing that way & you can't find a sensably priced one,
Then if you can live without your's for a week then you can send it to me & I can drill it out & weld in a new threaded section to suit a drain bolt of your choice .
pm me if your interested Kelv,
All the best bud DDD.

[GingerMagic]

DDD, thanks for the help - I will see how I get on. Helicoil on mine isn't possible because of the lump of something behind the hole so you can't get in to use the kit..

[Welly]

Why not do oil changes using a sump-pump kit via the dip stick? you'd never need to 'drain' the sump again.

Here's one as an example: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002 ... SACAZ6CJLM

[GingerMagic]

Hi Welly, my current sump plug is mostly held in with PTFE tape and grease.. I'm not sure which is leaking most, the gasket or the plug....

[steve_earwig]

I think the problem is the drain plug is still leaking but there's nothing else can be done to fix it, it's too far gone, so he'd have to glue it up or weld it, both of which would involve taking it off to do it properly anyway and while it's off...

[Welly]

Ohhhhh, I get it.

What a f*cker though, and a coont of a job to replace at home. Still, you'll get to inspect/clean the oil pick-up gauze as a miniature bonus

If you can manage without it it might be worth doing what DDD says and get someone (him if he's happy) or a local light engineering shop to frig up a new fred and sump nut. You'd need a new gashgit - are they silicone rubber on these injins? not Cork shirley?

[Welly]

*rummages through Photobucket drawer

*err huh

*aha!


Here's a pick of my 110's sump, looks oily/wet around the gasket.....Oh and it looks like silicone-from-a-tube gasket will need very careful scraping off and not to score the metal facing. That 'bastard' engine mount looks close to the sump too. Intercooler pipeage will have to come off.


Oh no a picture of my Undertray WHERE ARE YOU? I'M SORRRRRRYYYYYYYYY

[mjb]

Why not do oil changes using a sump-pump kit via the dip stick? you'd never need to 'drain' the sump again.

Here's one as an example: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002 ... SACAZ6CJLM

I bought one of those since the mrs' sump plug is also knackered. It won't go round the corner at the bottom of the dipstick tube on the hdi90, so is useless to me. Anyone wants to buy it off me for £20 (half-used once) you're welcome (pick-up only)

It's been nearly 2 years since its last oil change, so I'm going to risk a 'normal' change on it tomorrow, see if the thread botch will survive the plug being reinserted. If not, I'll have to get round to changing the sump (had one from ebay sat around for a year, but never had the time to change it )

[Welly]

I wonder if you can invade the sump via the turbo oil return (drain) what goes back into the sump? it's at the back of the block I know but the sump plug isn't exactly easy either.

[Bailes1992]

I'm not sure I like those sump pumps. I can imagine not all the oil gets drained properly and any metal filings or sludge gets left behind!