Oil change after DPF removal

[gumby6371]

I'll be doing a full service next week and just want to double check which oil to use.
ECP lists 5/40, 5/30 and 5/30 C2 for a late model 2.2
Should I still be using the low ash stuff if the particulate filter has been removed or will it cause problems?

I'll be doing the other halfs 307 soon after which does need the C2 stuff so am I better off getting enough of the C2 stuff for both cars?

[PeterN]

With no DPF you should be able to use a standard quality oil, I use Comma 15/40 CF rated semi synthetic in my 2.0. Hdi which should be fine for a non DPF car as you no longer need low ash oil. Its more important that you change it regularly than use expensive oil, I change mine every 6k-8k and mine has done 220k miles. I pay about £13.00 for my oil in Trago mills.

Peter

[jasper5]

No need to use the low ash oil if you don't have the DPF, however, you should use the 5w30 fully synthetic.
The 15w40 semi synthetic is not a recommended oil to use with a HDi engine....10w40 semi synthetic or 5w40 fully synthetic is better....you can then change the oil at 10,000 or more and save quite a bit of money.

[gumby6371]

Thanks Jasper, 5/30 it is.
Like I said if I get a deal on the 5/30 C2 I'll probably use it on both cars, if not I'll get the normal stuff for mine and save a few quid.

[Welly]

Just to confuse you further I personally would not use a fully-syn oil in an engine that hasn't had it before. The fully-syn can allegedly shift old waxy deposits which'd otherwise be happier left where they were.

I would personally recommend Fuchs/Silkolene 10W/40 semi-syn as a good all-rounder. If you go online to Opie Oils they quite often have a discount code available if you ask nicely, and you'll get the filter cartridge from them too.

15W/40 is too 'thick'.

[PeterN]

What is the problem with 15/40? I have always used it in my 406/C5.

Peter

[Welly]

15/40 is just a bit too thick on cold starts. 10W/40 is recommended by Peugeot for European climates to suit both summer and winter use.

Modern engines require no more than a 10W/40 and, more frequently, less than this for optimum wear protection from cold and better fuel economy (less mechanical drag). My Volvo uses a 5W/30 oil.....shake a bottle of that stuff and it sounds like a drink it's that thin.

I remember when I was about 20 and naive I was running a Peugeot 405 1.9 petrol, went to the dealers parts counter one Saturday morning.....asked for the Oil....they asked the mileage? I said 50K miles.....they gave me a 20W/50 oil put that stuff in and the next morning the engine really struggled to turn over. Had to drop the oil again that day, lesson learnt and my oil interest began......

[PeterN]

Thanks for the info, it doesn't actually specify a viscosity in the manual. Mine start fine on it, pretty well instantly in fact so I shall still use it as its cheap.

Peter

[Welly]

Thanks for the info, it doesn't actually specify a viscosity in the manual. Mine start fine on it, pretty well instantly in fact so I shall still use it as its cheap.

Peter

You probably don't notice so much with a diesel as the starter is very powerful, if you're happy with 15/40 then go for it, I'd personally never use oil starting with a 15W but each to their own I guess.

[gumby6371]

No idea who actually makes the stuff but I spotted 4 litres of 5/30 fully synth for £16 in Tesco earlier when I popped in for milk and bread.
As I change the oil every 6000 miles or 12 months, avoid the turbo from cold and rarely exceed 3000 rpm I'll probably give that a punt.
At that price I may even move to 6 monthly oil changes

[PeterN]

I would certainly favour that.

Peter

[jonsowman]

A lot of people the Coupe forum have been recommending Total Quartz 9000, which is a 5W40 fully synth and is what Pug originally specified (for the 2.2HDi, I think it's the same for the 2.0s but best check the handbook).

[jasper5]

The specified oil for the 2.2 HDi with the DPF is 5w30 C2.

The 2.0 HDi is specified with a 5w40 oil in fully synthetic or 10w40 in semi synthetic.

[KozmoNaut]

A lot of people the Coupe forum have been recommending Total Quartz 9000, which is a 5W40 fully synth and is what Pug originally specified (for the 2.2HDi, I think it's the same for the 2.0s but best check the handbook).

I put Quartz 9000 5w40 in my 2.2 petrol (and my motorcycle), but it's not a low-ash oil, so it could potentially foul the DPF over time. For a car with the DPF removed, it's probably fine.

[dirtydirtydiesel]

A lot of people the Coupe forum have been recommending Total Quartz 9000, which is a 5W40 fully synth and is what Pug originally specified (for the 2.2HDi, I think it's the same for the 2.0s but best check the handbook).

I put Quartz 9000 5w40 in my 2.2 petrol (and my motorcycle), but it's not a low-ash oil, so it could potentially foul the DPF over time. For a car with the DPF removed, it's probably fine.

KozmoNaut,
You really don't want to be using car oil in your bike, there's many reasons for this far to many for me to be bothered to go into here, just Google motorcycle oil's.
And no i can't be arsed getting into another argument with you, you can put chip fat in you 'motorcycle' for all I care .
But if you like your bike use bike specific oil & don't be a cheepskate

p.s I've been around engines bike & car for over forty years , building them & racing them & my Dad & grandad before me so I do have some insight into this matter.