Been in a 407 and liked it

[Welly]

Something's not right there, bits of dirt/crud in the line? and it's leaking somewhere emptying the fuel lines overnight.

The leak is likely to be at the injector-end of the system but the crud could be in the tank, might be worth removing the in-tank pump and have a nosy in the tank? the fuel lines will need flushing I think, and then another new filter, car sounds a bit of a liability to me.

[steve_earwig]

Oh crap As Welly says, looks like you'll have to flush the fuel system out, including the tank (Are you having that "I wish I'd kept my trap shut now" moment?)

Does these 407 priming bulbs give any trouble like they did on the old XUD cars

Did they? I just spent ages looking for the bulb on the diagrams, it was hard to spot because it and both fuel lines are all one part - I didn't bother looking the price up! Maybe you can get something similar off of ebay and some small jubilleees. Although it might be worth waiting until you've flushed it, things might become more apparent once you have it apart.

[Captain Jack]

When I had this slow starting issue on the 406, it turned out to be a duff injector pouring too much fuel back to the tank. Maybe worth doing a leak off test

[Doggy]

When I had this slow starting issue on the 406, it turned out to be a duff injector pouring too much fuel back to the tank. Maybe worth doing a leak off test

+1 That'd be my guess too.

[FarmerPug]

In addition to the slow starting issue the car does produce a bit of white smoke on start up, it was doing it before i serviced it. I told joe today that if its dirt in the tank or a bad injector to take it back to the dealer who sold him the car, he has the car purchased on finance so i assume that there must be at least 3 months of a warranty on the car.

Its not a rough car, but at the same time for a car with 68k miles should the leather on the gearstick have worn away to show the metal behind, the steering wheel is also leather with some of that perforation effect going on, in some places the perforations are quite thin, and there are a set of aftermarket alloys on the car, its possible that its been clocked.

I think its best not to get too involved, i was only asked to service the car, i dont particularly want to get involved in fuel tank removal, or leak down tests on somoene elses car.

[Welly]

A 2010 car with 68K miles sounds about right to me (15K over 4.5 ish years) I think it sounds like its has some hard use maybe by a company or its done a lot of door to door work. It sounds like it hasn't been serviced much maybe only twice in its life or something.

White smoke on start up is usually unburnt fuel (atomized raw diesel and water vapour) due to incorrect fuelling, duff glow plugs or low compression.

[trufflehunt]

In addition to the slow starting issue the car does produce a bit of white smoke on start up, it was doing it before i serviced it. I told joe today that if its dirt in the tank or a bad injector to take it back to the dealer who sold him the car, he has the car purchased on finance so i assume that there must be at least 3 months of a warranty on the car.

Its not a rough car, but at the same time for a car with 68k miles should the leather on the gearstick have worn away to show the metal behind, the steering wheel is also leather with some of that perforation effect going on, in some places the perforations are quite thin, and there are a set of aftermarket alloys on the car, its possible that its been clocked.

I think its best not to get too involved, i was only asked to service the car, i dont particularly want to get involved in fuel tank removal, or leak down tests on somoene elses car.

Sounds like a car with rather more than 68K on it. Think you're right to do just what you were asked to.

On 407's in general, I like the appearance of the 407. But having had a read through the Parkers Guide review, and noticed a reliability
figure of 2.5 stars out of 5, this is not a car I would be interested in.

[jasper5]

In addition to the slow starting issue the car does produce a bit of white smoke on start up, it was doing it before i serviced it. I told joe today that if its dirt in the tank or a bad injector to take it back to the dealer who sold him the car, he has the car purchased on finance so i assume that there must be at least 3 months of a warranty on the car.

Its not a rough car, but at the same time for a car with 68k miles should the leather on the gearstick have worn away to show the metal behind, the steering wheel is also leather with some of that perforation effect going on, in some places the perforations are quite thin, and there are a set of aftermarket alloys on the car, its possible that its been clocked.

I think its best not to get too involved, i was only asked to service the car, i dont particularly want to get involved in fuel tank removal, or leak down tests on somoene elses car.

Sounds like a car with rather more than 68K on it. Think you're right to do just what you were asked to.

On 407's in general, I like the appearance of the 407. But having had a read through the Parkers Guide review, and noticed a reliability
figure of 2.5 stars out of 5, this is not a car I would be interested in.

As the owner of a 407 2.0 HDi that has done 97,000 miles ....we have dome 73,000 trouble free miles in it...ok, the DMF failed at 44,000 miles, but we all know about the DMF, don't we?
I would have had another one, for sure.

[Welly]

jasper, what are you replacing the 407 with?

[jasper5]

jasper, what are you replacing the 407 with?

2011 508 saloon 2.0 HDi 140. 20,000 miles, black, absolutely mint
I'll have it a week saturday and will post some photos when I get it.

[Welly]

Cool, are you replacing the car because the wife does a lot of commuting (I seem to remember) so I guess you need something newish and regularly too.

[jasper5]

Cool, are you replacing the car because the wife does a lot of commuting (I seem to remember) so I guess you need something newish and regularly too.

We change our car every 5 years because my wife does 50 motorway miles a day to and from work.
Most of the mileage has been motorway miles.

[steve_earwig]

Sounds like a car with rather more than 68K on it. Think you're right to do just what you were asked to.

Seconded, I'm glad he has the warranty to fall back on, otherwise it could have ended up a millstone around your neck

On 407's in general, I like the appearance of the 407. But having had a read through the Parkers Guide review, and noticed a reliability
figure of 2.5 stars out of 5, this is not a car I would be interested in.

I wouldn't worry too much what Parker's reckon, I see you drive a 406 yet if you read about them on sites like Which? and Honest John you'd get the impression that it'd be a miracle for one to drive 100 yards down the road without exploding...

The bit that put me off the 407 is the load space in the estate, after the 406 it's pitifully small in there, it's hardly more than the yoyo and that's virtually useless.